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# 210324 22-Mar-2017 15:16
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I'm going to sign up with Viodafone for UFB. They supply a Huawei HG 659 modem. I'm trying to find a DECT Base station to connect to the modem and the connect Fritz!fon to the base station. I have been in touch with 3 companies that sell VoIP equipment and none of them can sell me a device to do want I want. Can anybody help with suggestions as to what is required.
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  # 1745889 22-Mar-2017 15:20
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Any particular reason you want to use the Fritz!fon instead of just buying a base station and using the supplied handset?  You should actually be able to pair it with about any DECT base station anyway, maybe someone has tried and can confirm a combination that works.


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I think in general you'll have to buy a new base with handset, then connect your existing DECT handset as second handset on the base (or de-reg the first handset and not use it I guess). I don't know of any where you can just buy the base on it's own.

 

So I'd look at using a W52 or W56 base-station from Yealink to do the job:

 

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=415782


 
 
 
 




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  # 1745891 22-Mar-2017 15:26
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ubergeeknz:

Any particular reason you want to use the Fritz!fon instead of just buying a base station and using the supplied handset?  You should actually be able to pair it with about any DECT base station anyway, maybe someone has tried and can confirm a combination that works.


Just trying to save $$. I have 3 Fritz!fones throughout the house , so trying not to buy another 3 phones if I can help it.

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  # 1745901 22-Mar-2017 15:35
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3puttssuck:
ubergeeknz:

 

Any particular reason you want to use the Fritz!fon instead of just buying a base station and using the supplied handset?  You should actually be able to pair it with about any DECT base station anyway, maybe someone has tried and can confirm a combination that works.

 


Just trying to save $$. I have 3 Fritz!fones throughout the house , so trying not to buy another 3 phones if I can help it.

 

You will have a hard time buying a base station without at least one handset.  But most DECT bases will support (I think the number is 8) multiple handsets paired.  

 

Could possibly take one of your phones into a shop and see if you can pair it with the DECT base of the handset they sell before buying ;)




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  # 1745977 22-Mar-2017 17:50
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ubergeeknz:

 

3puttssuck:
ubergeeknz:

 

Any particular reason you want to use the Fritz!fon instead of just buying a base station and using the supplied handset?  You should actually be able to pair it with about any DECT base station anyway, maybe someone has tried and can confirm a combination that works.

 


Just trying to save $$. I have 3 Fritz!fones throughout the house , so trying not to buy another 3 phones if I can help it.

 

You will have a hard time buying a base station without at least one handset.  But most DECT bases will support (I think the number is 8) multiple handsets paired.  

 

Could possibly take one of your phones into a shop and see if you can pair it with the DECT base of the handset they sell before buying ;)

 

 

I don't mind buying a base station with 1 handset if push comes to shove, I just need to find a unit that with connect to 3rd party handsets.


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  # 1746040 22-Mar-2017 20:12
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3puttssuck: I don't mind buying a base station with 1 handset if push comes to shove, I just need to find a unit that with connect to 3rd party handsets. 

 

That's the whole point of the GAP part of the DECT standard. They're all supposed to 'just work' with other manufacturers. Unfortunately in the real world, some features are only supported when used with the manufacturer's own bases. Eg I used to use a Snom M9 handset on a Gigaset base-station, but the only 'ringtype' that would work with it was a single beep. Just one beep to indicate ringing, and it doesn't repeat! So yes it 'worked' but it wasn't really usable.

 

I'd be happy to test one of your FritzBoxVonPhoneBurgers on a Yealink base for you if you want to send me one with a return courier pack included. PM me for address details if you like.

 

 


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  # 1746062 22-Mar-2017 21:06
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speed:

 

I think in general you'll have to buy a new base with handset, then connect your existing DECT handset as second handset on the base (or de-reg the first handset and not use it I guess). I don't know of any where you can just buy the base on it's own.

 

So I'd look at using a W52 or W56 base-station from Yealink to do the job:

 

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=415782

 

 

OP has already discussed this in another thread.

 

The W52 or W56 base are no good for the job as the requirement is to pair the Fritz!fon with an analogue DECT base station to plug into the FXS port on the router, not an IP one. As discussed in the prior thread I said you can do this but you can do this but lose 99% of the functionality of the Fritz!fon except for calling.

 

I recommended a Gigaset base as it's the only one I'd ever tested this scenario on many years ago when I owned a Fritz!fon - but actually don't recommend this approach as a real world solution because of the lost functionality. I have no idea who sells analogue Gigaset phones but Atlas Gentech still distribute them. You should also be able to use one of the Gigaset IP bases which has an FXO port on it and pair the Fritz!fon with that but it's a bit of a messy approach.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1746075 22-Mar-2017 21:43
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3puttssuck: I'm going to sign up with Viodafone for UFB. They supply a Huawei HG 659 modem. I'm trying to find a DECT Base station to connect to the modem and the connect Fritz!fon to the base station. I have been in touch with 3 companies that sell VoIP equipment and none of them can sell me a device to do want I want. Can anybody help with suggestions as to what is required.
TIA.

 

If you have a FritzFon, then you likely also have a FritzBox it is connecting to at present.  There is no reason that you could not just keep on using the FritzBox.  If nothing else, it should plug into whatever analogue port the HG659 has, but it will likely also be able to handle a direct VOIP connection, even with the HD659 set up as the main router.  It may require a bit of messing around with the settings in both routers though.




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  # 1746079 22-Mar-2017 21:57
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speed:

 

3puttssuck: I don't mind buying a base station with 1 handset if push comes to shove, I just need to find a unit that with connect to 3rd party handsets. 

 

That's the whole point of the GAP part of the DECT standard. They're all supposed to 'just work' with other manufacturers. Unfortunately in the real world, some features are only supported when used with the manufacturer's own bases. Eg I used to use a Snom M9 handset on a Gigaset base-station, but the only 'ringtype' that would work with it was a single beep. Just one beep to indicate ringing, and it doesn't repeat! So yes it 'worked' but it wasn't really usable.

 

I'd be happy to test one of your FritzBoxVonPhoneBurgers on a Yealink base for you if you want to send me one with a return courier pack included. PM me for address details if you like.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the offer speed. It look like what I'm trying to do it not easily achievable. I'll sell off the Fritz setup and start fresh with 3 new phones.  




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  # 1746082 22-Mar-2017 21:59
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sbiddle:

 

speed:

 

I think in general you'll have to buy a new base with handset, then connect your existing DECT handset as second handset on the base (or de-reg the first handset and not use it I guess). I don't know of any where you can just buy the base on it's own.

 

So I'd look at using a W52 or W56 base-station from Yealink to do the job:

 

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=415782

 

 

OP has already discussed this in another thread.

 

The W52 or W56 base are no good for the job as the requirement is to pair the Fritz!fon with an analogue DECT base station to plug into the FXS port on the router, not an IP one. As discussed in the prior thread I said you can do this but you can do this but lose 99% of the functionality of the Fritz!fon except for calling.

 

I recommended a Gigaset base as it's the only one I'd ever tested this scenario on many years ago when I owned a Fritz!fon - but actually don't recommend this approach as a real world solution because of the lost functionality. I have no idea who sells analogue Gigaset phones but Atlas Gentech still distribute them. You should also be able to use one of the Gigaset IP bases which has an FXO port on it and pair the Fritz!fon with that but it's a bit of a messy approach.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the help thus far sbiddle, very much appreciated. It looks way to technical for my understanding. Can you recommend as decent value for money triple handset DECT set up.




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  # 1746088 22-Mar-2017 22:01
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fe31nz:

 

3puttssuck: I'm going to sign up with Viodafone for UFB. They supply a Huawei HG 659 modem. I'm trying to find a DECT Base station to connect to the modem and the connect Fritz!fon to the base station. I have been in touch with 3 companies that sell VoIP equipment and none of them can sell me a device to do want I want. Can anybody help with suggestions as to what is required.
TIA.

 

If you have a FritzFon, then you likely also have a FritzBox it is connecting to at present.  There is no reason that you could not just keep on using the FritzBox.  If nothing else, it should plug into whatever analogue port the HG659 has, but it will likely also be able to handle a direct VOIP connection, even with the HD659 set up as the main router.  It may require a bit of messing around with the settings in both routers though.

 

 

If it was possible, it is most likely way outside my technical abilities to set it up. lol.


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  # 1746107 22-Mar-2017 22:07
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3puttssuck: Thanks for the offer speed. It look like what I'm trying to do it not easily achievable. I'll sell off the Fritz setup and start fresh with 3 new phones.  

 

 

No wait, now that I understand what you needed... I had misunderstood, thinking you were needing an IP base! But from what sbiddle explained, you only really need a PoTS base that does GAP + DECT. You'd buy those at your normal retail stores like Harvey Normals or Noels Creamingem.

 

But even better, fe31nz topped it off by pointing out that the FonVritzaPhone has an FXO port on it, so why not just unplug it from the IP network since you're having trouble with that side of it (disconnect ethernet) and plug it into the VF router's FXS port?

 

So you have like a 2 meter long 'old skool copper phone line' between your routers...

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 1746135 22-Mar-2017 22:11
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3puttssuck:Can you recommend as decent value for money triple handset DECT set up.

 

 

 

 

FWIW, I've always found Uniden up to my expectations for PsTN equipment (although it's been a while, I must admit!). Eg:

 

 

 

http://www.harveynorman.co.nz/phone-and-gps/cordless-phones-and-accessories/cordless-phones/uniden-dect-17352-triple-handset-cordless-phone.html

 

 


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  # 1746732 23-Mar-2017 23:07
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speed:

 

3puttssuck:Can you recommend as decent value for money triple handset DECT set up.

 

 

 

 

FWIW, I've always found Uniden up to my expectations for PsTN equipment (although it's been a while, I must admit!). Eg:

 

 

 

http://www.harveynorman.co.nz/phone-and-gps/cordless-phones-and-accessories/cordless-phones/uniden-dect-17352-triple-handset-cordless-phone.html

 

 

 

 

Uniden do their own version of DECT - it is not DECT GAP and is generally not compatible with anything except Uniden equipment.


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  # 1747543 25-Mar-2017 12:48
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Why not connect the Fritzbox in client mode to your new router & use a separate VOIP provider?


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