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  Reply # 367907 15-Aug-2010 17:28
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Before you invest in a lot of equipment - you may want to call 126 to see if you're on the right plan.

There are a number of pricing plans (businesstime plans) that may reduce the costs you incur for fixed to mobile (including capped calling for Telecom mobiles) and national calls.





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  Reply # 367939 15-Aug-2010 19:19
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Zeon:
scoopy: And another thing . . . 

How would you think hosted VoIP PBX work for a school?


With 8 extensions I think a hosted VOIP PBX would definitely be what you are after if you did go VOIP. WxC have a service (although their website is a bit scarce on details). I have also heard of kiwilink and I'm sure there are others out there. I can't vouch for their quality but taking a look:

http://kiwilink.co.nz/voip-business.php

So, just trying to get my head around the pricing. It's $10 per month per line (for the cheap calling rates) and then $5~ per month per extension. You'd probably need say 4 lines & then 8 extensions.

So that would be 4x10 + 8x5 = $80 per month for your phones then 3c a minute for local and 26c for mobile which I bet you is much cheaper than Telecom. You will need to get VOIP phones however which may be $100 each for a basic model.

The only provisio with VOIP is, as mentioned you need data cabling to each phone and a good internet connection. TBH I don't think QoS/VLAN switches are really that important in such a small setup but if you do want these and a good router for the internet which is QoS/VLAN capable you may be looking at another $1000 or so including a power over ethernet switch (which means your phones will still work even in a power outage). Then lets say 2 hours for a professional to install and a better internet connection which, presuming your on DSL may be another $100 a month for EUBA. So presuming your calling costs halve:

Assuming your Telecom lines comprise $150 of your bill:

Costs
- $2000 one off for hardware/setup
- $80 for VOIP lines (monthly)
- $100 for better internet (monthly)

Savings
- If the calling costs are halved then $225 (monthly)
- $150 on Telecom Lines


So your costs go up by $180 and your savings are $375 so net saving of around ~$200 per month. So should pay itself off in a year. My numbers are probably inaccurate but the other thing this does is also future proof you for as anaolgue/ISDN is a sunset technology and you will be VOIP ready.


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  Reply # 367940 15-Aug-2010 19:23
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cokemaster: Before you invest in a lot of equipment - you may want to call 126 to see if you're on the right plan.

There are a number of pricing plans (businesstime plans) that may reduce the costs you incur for fixed to mobile (including capped calling for Telecom mobiles) and national calls.



Good point.  However, the school has recently had Telecom do a audit of their pricing t make sure that it was in-fact the best plan for them. Telstra also has been approached for quote.  It was better than Telecom but not by much.

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  Reply # 369399 18-Aug-2010 16:07
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I think you need to go to Vodafone fixed business line. They offer 14c/min for vodafone mobile and under 30c/min for telecom (not sure about 2degree). and for national calling you need to go to Skype they offer NZ$7 per month for 10000min in any where in NZ. When you want to use skype without computer there is hardware available in NZ market with reasonable price. Even for this you don't need to change your current PABX system. I think for all this you need to invest under $400. Cause I am using same method for my self. Hope this works for you. Cheers

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  Reply # 369608 18-Aug-2010 23:17
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PRC: I think you need to go to Vodafone fixed business line. They offer 14c/min for vodafone mobile and under 30c/min for telecom (not sure about 2degree). and for national calling you need to go to Skype they offer NZ$7 per month for 10000min in any where in NZ. When you want to use skype without computer there is hardware available in NZ market with reasonable price. Even for this you don't need to change your current PABX system. I think for all this you need to invest under $400. Cause I am using same method for my self. Hope this works for you. Cheers


How do you hook Skype into a legacy PBX? I'm not sure if there are even options to do this in the VOIP sphere?





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  Reply # 369611 18-Aug-2010 23:22
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PRC: and for national calling you need to go to Skype they offer NZ$7 per month for 10000min in any where in NZ. When you want to use skype without computer there is hardware available in NZ market with reasonable price. Even for this you don't need to change your current PABX system.


I've seen your first posts here on Geekzone are all about Skype. Actually Skype would not be recommended for a situation like school - you would need more than one line, and the Skype - SIP integration is non-existent outside beta.

Also number portability is not available with Skype.

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  Reply # 369705 19-Aug-2010 10:10
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Hi Zeon. No idea about direct hook from PABX. you need separate Ethernet from modem or router. Thanks.

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  Reply # 369710 19-Aug-2010 10:23
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Hi Freitasm. I understand skype does not have number portability. Thanks you to know me. What ever I did before that was my misunderstanding it want happen again. Sorry for that. Even I am not talking about SIP. If any one need to save money on their phone bill they need to something like this. The one you talking about more than one line i did not understand your meaning. Hope this help. Thanks

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