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  # 438112 11-Feb-2011 07:56
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys.

It does sound like it could potentially be a bit of a disaster for him to try and get his employees to use a SIP client, and yeah, reliability is very important.

I'd try the VoIP route it if it was just me, but then I'm more into such things, and I'd consider the extra set up and maintenance a hobby/fun... :) 

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  # 438142 11-Feb-2011 08:57
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How about using 2talk account with txt call back function

You txt number to 2528 and 2talk initate a call to your mobile and to the number you want to call

If you pre buy local/national/mobile minutes its works out quite economic, although you have to pay 20c for the txt message

 
 
 
 


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  # 438150 11-Feb-2011 09:11
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camo786: How about using 2talk account with txt call back function

You txt number to 2528 and 2talk initate a call to your mobile and to the number you want to call

If you pre buy local/national/mobile minutes its works out quite economic, although you have to pay 20c for the txt message


Not an effective way to run a business.

I posted the comment about petrol because I'm sure each employee is using at least $100 a week v's $100 a month on the phone. 

I'd bet they could drive the bill down a bit just by analysis of what calling they're doing, but really $100 ARPU if it's a successful business venture isn't that much.

On the other hand I'm looking at putting 2Talk voip solutions out there because people are spending to much on fixed lines and calling mobiles but not having enough phone lines so every member  of staff can use the phone when they want to.

In our business we only had 1 phone line, now we have 2 phone lines and I'm paying roughly the same amount of money. 

However, having the extra line is translating to more business simply because we can now talk to people when we want to and do the business.

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  # 438826 13-Feb-2011 12:40
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Just a thought, if the company is spending 2000 or more on phone bills
wont it be cheaper just to go on to unlimited calling plans
I know 2degrees offer the $149 all you can eat calling plans to any phone/mobile
Vodafone must have a similar plan too

150*11 = 1650 approximately
That will save you 500 at least by using the existing mobile connections




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  # 438830 13-Feb-2011 13:02
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wanghou168: Just a thought, if the company is spending 2000 or more on phone bills
wont it be cheaper just to go on to unlimited calling plans
I know 2degrees offer the $149 all you can eat calling plans to any phone/mobile
Vodafone must have a similar plan too

150*11 = 1650 approximately
That will save you 500 at least by using the existing mobile connections


Yip Vodafone have had unlimited calling plans for ages with varying prices up to ~$150 per month depending on who you want unlimited calls to (ie mobiles/landlines).


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  # 438852 13-Feb-2011 14:28
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sbiddle:
wanghou168: Just a thought, if the company is spending 2000 or more on phone bills
wont it be cheaper just to go on to unlimited calling plans
I know 2degrees offer the $149 all you can eat calling plans to any phone/mobile
Vodafone must have a similar plan too

150*11 = 1650 approximately
That will save you 500 at least by using the existing mobile connections


Yip Vodafone have had unlimited calling plans for ages with varying prices up to ~$150 per month depending on who you want unlimited calls to (ie mobiles/landlines).



I would say over a year

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  # 439638 15-Feb-2011 09:55
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Symbian S60 has a good integrated SIP client. Otherwise sipdroid or Bria (which works on iPhone). Calling with a decent VOIP provider will cost 3.5c/min for landline calls throughout the country (incl. GST) and you'll be able to call other staff for free without worrying about mobile plans, except a good data plan. With a good data plan VOIP calls over mobile data should cost about 2c/min. 

However you'll need 3.5G coverage for good call quality, and at least 3G for "acceptable" call quality. It won't work to well if you're driving, otherwise it's a great solution. 

 
 
 
 


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  # 439639 15-Feb-2011 09:57
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pacgen: Symbian S60 has a good integrated SIP client.


Symbian is pretty much dead now, with Nokia partnering with Microsoft to introduce Windows Phone 7.

 




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  # 440119 16-Feb-2011 09:43
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28 million Symbian handsets in Q4 2010, up 36% on the previous year and still miles ahead of anyone else... I'd love to have a product as dead as that!

As opposed to Window's 7th attempt at a functional OS? I know what I'd be going with...

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  # 440122 16-Feb-2011 09:46
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pacgen: 28 million Symbian handsets in Q4 2010, up 36% on the previous year and still miles ahead of anyone else... I'd love to have a product as dead as that!

As opposed to Window's 7th attempt at a functional OS? I know what I'd be going with...


It's obviously not dead now. But Nokia has since last year dropped support for the open source project, slowed down Meego and other announcements and got into the Windows Phone 7 wagon.

I wouldn't expect updates on Symbian from now on, and even less time spent on new applications being developed.

Instead you will see all those .Net developers working on Windows Phone applications. But this is not about Symbian, it's about having a viable VoIP solution to replace mobile, which has been discussed in previous pages.

 




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  # 440123 16-Feb-2011 09:51
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Exactly, and as of now I think Symbian has the best SIP client for mobile :o)

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  # 440124 16-Feb-2011 09:53
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The discussion was not only about the best client (which could be), but how easy to use compared to a mobile phone - does it integrate with the phone dialer, so users don't get confused, does it integrate well with phone book?

Also how reproducible is the solution. Can an IT administrator deploy the proper configuration to one, ten, hundred handsets without having to keep those devices in house for long, or manually configure each one, etc... Automation is the word.




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  # 440366 16-Feb-2011 18:18
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freitasm: The discussion was not only about the best client (which could be), but how easy to use compared to a mobile phone - does it integrate with the phone dialer, so users don't get confused, does it integrate well with phone book?

Also how reproducible is the solution. Can an IT administrator deploy the proper configuration to one, ten, hundred handsets without having to keep those devices in house for long, or manually configure each one, etc... Automation is the word.


I get the impression we're a bonkers distance from there, but will we actually get there at all or will mobile SIP simply be a market disruption to drive mobile providers to deliver better consumer outcomes?

Will mobile providers, for example, just set up gateways to pick up your sip extension and route the call onto your handset so you it can be as though you're at your desk?

Will they just reduce calling charges to a point where people won't bother with the effort?  That's what I'm picking.

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  # 440375 16-Feb-2011 18:31
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DonGould: Will mobile providers, for example, just set up gateways to pick up your sip extension and route the call onto your handset so you it can be as though you're at your desk?



You've obviously never heard of GAN!


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