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#709195 30-Oct-2012 15:16

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nathan: Correct Gadgets are deprecated from Windows 8 due to security.

I didn't know this, should i not be using them in windows 7, I just have network, hard drive, gpu and cpu meters and the weather one.

I missed it too, but yes apparently that's what they recommend:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2719662

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/11/microsoft-advises-nuking-windows-gadgets-after-security-hole/

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#709230 30-Oct-2012 15:50

Vulnerabilities in Gadgets Could Allow Remote Code Execution

"Microsoft is announcing the availability of an automated Microsoft Fix it solution that disables the Windows Sidebar and Gadgets on supported editions of Windows Vista and Windows 7. Disabling the Windows Sidebar and Gadgets can help protect customers from vulnerabilities that involve the execution of arbitrary code by the Windows Sidebar when running insecure Gadgets. In addition, Gadgets installed from untrusted sources can harm your computer and can access your computer's files, show you objectionable content, or change their behavior at any time.

An attacker who successfully exploited a Gadget vulnerability could run arbitrary code in the context of the current user. If the current user is logged on with administrative user rights, an attacker could take complete control of the affected system. An attacker could then install programs; view, change, or delete data; or create new accounts with full user rights. Users whose accounts are configured to have fewer user rights on the system could be less impacted than users who operate with administrative user rights."

I don't have it installed as it's a drain on resources. I never look at my desktop because most of the times the windows are all maximised anyway.

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#709289 30-Oct-2012 17:08

linw: Excuse me if I am puzzled, but why would you pay $10 more, then go through the ugrade path, for the same thing?

For $10 I'd rather be outside going for a run or a cycle or enjoying the sun, rather then having to bother downloading, installing the Win8 Upgrade, then dealing with driver updates etc. For the $10 extra you'll get the OEM optimized system that works out of the box with the correct drivers, Windows 8 Logoed system which will come with UEFI instead of BIOS etc for faster start and secure boot etc

For me that's worth the $10

YMMV

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#709515 30-Oct-2012 22:11

dontpanic42:
mattwnz:
Apparently there is no need for separate anti virus softare anymore as it is all built in, so I wonder if retailers will continue to upsell this. I presume they don't upsell it with apple macs. I am wondering what advantages additional antivirus protection will actually offer.

Queue Anti-Trust law-suit from Norton, Trend Micro, Kaspersky etc... ;)

I'm happy enough with Windows Defender (which is really just an integrated version of Security Essentials anyway), but was just puzzled about the lack scheduled scan option.

You could probably just setup a scheduled task instead using %ProgramFiles%\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe

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#709519 30-Oct-2012 22:21

freitasm:
You shutdown as usual. If hibernate is enabled in the power configuration (powercfg -h on) then Windows 8 will use some parts of the hibernate feature to store some data tht will make subsequent boots faster.

Read about Fast Startup here.

It would've been nice if they modified the behaviour of hiberfil.sys or used a separate file, for example with 32GB ram if you reduce hiberfil.sys to 50% (the smallest it'll let you) its still consuming 16GB of space

From what I've read the fast startup process only requires 15-25% minimum

Either that or allowing the file to shrink when not in use then grow during the shutdown/sleep process. Only problem is then you probably introduce wear and/or TRIM issues with SSD's

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#709532 30-Oct-2012 22:42

nathan:
linw: Excuse me if I am puzzled, but why would you pay $10 more, then go through the ugrade path, for the same thing?

For $10 I'd rather be outside going for a run or a cycle or enjoying the sun, rather then having to bother downloading, installing the Win8 Upgrade, then dealing with driver updates etc. For the $10 extra you'll get the OEM optimized system that works out of the box with the correct drivers, Windows 8 Logoed system which will come with UEFI instead of BIOS etc for faster start and secure boot etc

For me that's worth the $10

YMMV

Re-read my post - that is exactly the point I was making. In fact, the upgrade path was going to cost $10 more (-10 + 20 = +10).

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#709917 31-Oct-2012 15:36

My upgrade to Windows 8 went pretty well. My laptop is pretty new so was able to take advantage of the $19.99 upgrade. The download took about 20 minutes, and the install about 40.

I didn't like it for the first hour. The square look of all windows was quite jarring compared to Windows 7's rounded edges, though now I have got used to it. I think some of the preinstalled apps are pretty nice, especially the people and messaging apps (though I would like these to extend the number of networks they can connect to in future)

I do feel it is too tablet focuses and it makes me wanna touch my screen all the time. More thought needs to go into those who are using laptops without mouse scroll wheels (one of my biggest gripes currently is any app or user interface that requires you to scroll across. If you move your mouse to the bottom-right scroller and keep your mouse still to keep clicking across, the scroll bar disappears after a few seconds and you have to shake your mouse again every time).

Questions for those in the know:
1: Is it possible to set your location? Whenever I open maps it takes me to the location of my ISP (Christchurch) and not where I am (Palmerston North).
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

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#709924 31-Oct-2012 15:47

As for location, I don't know if Geosense for Windows is updated for Windows 8 yet (I will find out) but it's pretty accurate.

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#709928 31-Oct-2012 15:53

GeoffisPure: My upgrade to Windows 8 went pretty well. My laptop is pretty new so was able to take advantage of the $19.99 upgrade. The download took about 20 minutes, and the install about 40.

I didn't like it for the first hour. The square look of all windows was quite jarring compared to Windows 7's rounded edges, though now I have got used to it. I think some of the preinstalled apps are pretty nice, especially the people and messaging apps (though I would like these to extend the number of networks they can connect to in future)

I do feel it is too tablet focuses and it makes me wanna touch my screen all the time. More thought needs to go into those who are using laptops without mouse scroll wheels (one of my biggest gripes currently is any app or user interface that requires you to scroll across. If you move your mouse to the bottom-right scroller and keep your mouse still to keep clicking across, the scroll bar disappears after a few seconds and you have to shake your mouse again every time).

Questions for those in the know:
1: Is it possible to set your location? Whenever I open maps it takes me to the location of my ISP (Christchurch) and not where I am (Palmerston North).
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

To answer number 2.
Why do you need to? Netflix on a desktop or laptop works perfectly via a browser. You don't need an app. At all.

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#709929 31-Oct-2012 15:59

GeoffisPure:
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

Yip I installed it and it works well. But thats because my PC is using the unblock-us DNS Servers I guess

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#709930 31-Oct-2012 16:01

NonprayingMantis:

To answer number 2.
Why do you need to? Netflix on a desktop or laptop works perfectly via a browser. You don't need an app. At all.

I like nice apps with slick interfaces. It's not a requirement, but if there was no merit to it they wouldn't have an app in the first place.

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#709931 31-Oct-2012 16:01

BraaiGuy:
GeoffisPure:
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

Yip I installed it and it works well. But thats because my PC is using the unblock-us DNS Servers I guess

Im guessing you have a US based Microsoft account / wlid too

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#709932 31-Oct-2012 16:02

BraaiGuy:
GeoffisPure:
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

Yip I installed it and it works well. But thats because my PC is using the unblock-us DNS Servers I guess

I use unblock-us too but the netflix app is still not available to me. Maybe because I selected NZ when I created my outlook account? Not sure...

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#709933 31-Oct-2012 16:02

nathan:
BraaiGuy:
GeoffisPure:
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

Yip I installed it and it works well. But thats because my PC is using the unblock-us DNS Servers I guess

Im guessing you have a US based Microsoft account / wlid too

No actually its NZ. But when I signed up, it was via the US DNS Servers

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#709936 31-Oct-2012 16:06

BraaiGuy:
nathan:
BraaiGuy:
GeoffisPure:
2: Is it possible to get and install the Netflix app, as it's deliberately kept out of the NZ store?

Yip I installed it and it works well. But thats because my PC is using the unblock-us DNS Servers I guess

Im guessing you have a US based Microsoft account / wlid too

No actually its NZ. But when I signed up, it was via the US DNS Servers

I didn't think Netflix eas available in the NZ Windows Store

Im unsure as my account is US based

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