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#115903 11-Apr-2013 10:15
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Windows 8 is turning out to be disappointing . . .

I purchased the cheap $20 upgrade of win 8 for one of my pc's as a trial and I just can't tolerate metro. 

I'd upgrade my machines to win 8 if microsoft released a version with the windows 7 start menu (and free windows media center). 

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  #802048 19-Apr-2013 08:26
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TwoSeven: On the other point, the default option I was presented with when upgrading to win 8 was that my email address was requried to log in (this I suspect ties the OS and user data to the cloud) which I am not keen on. The menu for local acounts was not obvious. Using the email thing is ok for a tablet (I dont need to do it on my Ipad though as an example) but for a desktop I prefer the local login, then type a credential if accessing an online service.

It's optional. Once you switch to Local Account you continue as usual.

There's no "cloud enforcement" anywhere.

Technically it is optional - so long as you are a tech savy person that knows what the other options are for. But If you enter an email, your account is tied to the cloud.

It doesn't tie the OS to anything. It doesn't even tie my account to the cloud because I can work without any Internet connection. It just makes it easier to sync your account's local data with cloud storage so it needs your account details just the same as required by other services from Google, etc.

You can change it to a local account in PC Settings which you can also get to via Control Panel | User Accounts and Family Safety | User Accounts | Make changes to my account in PC Settings.

I understand what you are saying, but I believe you might be missing the point - if it the intention was not to tie ones account to the cloud they wouldnt have given one the option to type in an email address in the first place. By default email addresses require people to be online to use them. Just because they give the option to turn it off later or to work offline, doesn't remove the requirement that at some stage, one needs to be online.

I was pointing out that "It doesn't tie the OS" except in the loosest sense of the term. Your PC, OS and account can function independently of the online component or link.

As has already been pointed out, you didn't have to provide an email address in the first place. If you knew that "By default email addresses require people to be online to use them" then why did you provide it?

Yes, Microsoft could make it more obvious to create a local account. I found it easy enough and my elderly father also managed to do it when he is definitely not "tech savy" as he normally has real difficulty with computers.

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