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  Reply # 917417 19-Oct-2013 15:03
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What hardware is this?

Was this upgrading 8.0 to 8.1?



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  Reply # 917428 19-Oct-2013 15:46
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nathan:
kontonnz: I've gotten used to win8, and rather gotten used to lack of a start menu etc; some of the admin side still a PIA but upgrading has been more painful then pulling teeth out(ok maybe an exaggeration, but still painful)

 

  • very very slow, started last night downloading the upgrade on my surface pro, and as of now still only at around 40%
  • multiple downloads for multiple systems running windows 8 (this is very much a pain on a capped internet connection) i.e. i have 3 computers my main desktop, surface (love this tablet), and hp laptop, each system is downloading just around 2.5gb each for an upgrade; what ever happened to single download and multiple upgrade paths MS stuffed this one up


out of curiosity is MS Store cached via Akamai ?


what do you mean by "what ever happened to single download and multiple upgrade paths MS stuffed this one up" ?




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I have 4 computers to update to 8.1, that's four downloads I have to make at 2.8GB per computer. (=11.2GB) The desk top computers took about 45 minutes to download and update. (after I stopped trying to update when the USA were hammering the 8.1 servers.)

I'm about to start the update for my Acer W510 tablet and will probably take a lot longer what with it's ethernet connection only being 100Mbits/sec.

I'm on a 100Mbit download cable connection, and have a 100GB data cap, so the total size of the download doesn't matter to me, but an ISO image should have been made available to download, so offline updates could be done.  What happens if I (anyone) has to do a refresh or reinstall of 8.1, do we have to reload Windows 8 then go to the online store again and go through the whole download/update process again?

What about those users who have slow connections and limited data caps?  How are they going to get the update? Very slowly, and possibly having to pay their ISP for exceeding their data caps.

No, Microsoft should have had more distribution channels for this update than just the Online store...


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 917431 19-Oct-2013 15:56
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MaxLV:
nathan:
kontonnz: I've gotten used to win8, and rather gotten used to lack of a start menu etc; some of the admin side still a PIA but upgrading has been more painful then pulling teeth out(ok maybe an exaggeration, but still painful)



  • very very slow, started last night downloading the upgrade on my surface pro, and as of now still only at around 40%

  • multiple downloads for multiple systems running windows 8 (this is very much a pain on a capped internet connection) i.e. i have 3 computers my main desktop, surface (love this tablet), and hp laptop, each system is downloading just around 2.5gb each for an upgrade; what ever happened to single download and multiple upgrade paths MS stuffed this one up




out of curiosity is MS Store cached via Akamai ?


what do you mean by "what ever happened to single download and multiple upgrade paths MS stuffed this one up" ?




XXX


If I can jump in...

I have 4 computers to update to 8.1, that's four downloads I have to make at 2.8GB per computer. (=11.2GB) The desk top computers took about 45 minutes to download and update. (after I stopped trying to update when the USA were hammering the 8.1 servers.)

I'm about to start the update for my Acer W510 tablet and will probably take a lot longer what with it's ethernet connection only being 100Mbits/sec.

I'm on a 100Mbit download cable connection, and have a 100GB data cap, so the total size of the download doesn't matter to me, but an ISO image should have been made available to download, so offline updates could be done.  What happens if I (anyone) has to do a refresh or reinstall of 8.1, do we have to reload Windows 8 then go to the online store again and go through the whole download/update process again?

What about those users who have slow connections and limited data caps?  How are they going to get the update? Very slowly, and possibly having to pay their ISP for exceeding their data caps.

No, Microsoft should have had more distribution channels for this update than just the Online store...



Once you're on 8.1 you can update your recovery partition, so you can do a push button PC reset, which will restore a plain 8.1 not 8.0

I'll look into what the options are for offline install and reply back

For your Acer with 100mb instead of 1000mb it's kind of irrelevant since it won't be able to max out your internet connection anyway

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  Reply # 917455 19-Oct-2013 17:27
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MaxLV:
nathan:
kontonnz: I've gotten used to win8, and rather gotten used to lack of a start menu etc; some of the admin side still a PIA but upgrading has been more painful then pulling teeth out(ok maybe an exaggeration, but still painful)

 

  • very very slow, started last night downloading the upgrade on my surface pro, and as of now still only at around 40%
  • multiple downloads for multiple systems running windows 8 (this is very much a pain on a capped internet connection) i.e. i have 3 computers my main desktop, surface (love this tablet), and hp laptop, each system is downloading just around 2.5gb each for an upgrade; what ever happened to single download and multiple upgrade paths MS stuffed this one up


out of curiosity is MS Store cached via Akamai ?


what do you mean by "what ever happened to single download and multiple upgrade paths MS stuffed this one up" ?




XXX


If I can jump in...

I have 4 computers to update to 8.1, that's four downloads I have to make at 2.8GB per computer. (=11.2GB) The desk top computers took about 45 minutes to download and update. (after I stopped trying to update when the USA were hammering the 8.1 servers.)

I'm about to start the update for my Acer W510 tablet and will probably take a lot longer what with it's ethernet connection only being 100Mbits/sec.

I'm on a 100Mbit download cable connection, and have a 100GB data cap, so the total size of the download doesn't matter to me, but an ISO image should have been made available to download, so offline updates could be done.  What happens if I (anyone) has to do a refresh or reinstall of 8.1, do we have to reload Windows 8 then go to the online store again and go through the whole download/update process again?

What about those users who have slow connections and limited data caps?  How are they going to get the update? Very slowly, and possibly having to pay their ISP for exceeding their data caps.

No, Microsoft should have had more distribution channels for this update than just the Online store...



Hate to think what people in rural areas are going to do, where their speeds can be not much faster than dial up. Even satellite broadband is pretty poor, and data is expensive. I remember when MS used to mail out CD's with updates on. Even an image that can be burnt to a dvd, could be good.

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  Reply # 917475 19-Oct-2013 18:12
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Just a heads up, If anyone has pirated windows or kms activated or MSDN windows it wont show up in the store

 

 

 

You will have to do it from a disk/usb

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  Reply # 917487 19-Oct-2013 18:25
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Windows 8.0 installed from MSDN will upgrade through the Windows Store as long as it's not a VL volume licensed version

VL versions, by design, are upgraded from media, and you can automate this by running SETUP.EXE /AUTO:UPGRADE

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  Reply # 917496 19-Oct-2013 19:07
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I have done 4 machines without issue. Well done MSFT.




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  Reply # 917549 19-Oct-2013 21:56
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WIDI no longer works for me after 8.1 but over seem similar.

I like haveing the same desktop and start background.

Would of been nice for a shutdown\logoff\restart button to have been added somewhere easier to get to.

Nice and easy to update form me, took 45 minutes on HP spectre xt laptop.

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  Reply # 917552 19-Oct-2013 22:15
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nathan: What hardware is this?

Was this upgrading 8.0 to 8.1?


It's a Carbon Touch laptop and yes, 8.0 to 8.1




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  Reply # 917557 19-Oct-2013 22:41
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HI all

if you have a samsung laptop model NP350V5C-S09AU i would not upgrade it to win 8.1 yet. this laptop has two video cards,  a low power intel & a radon for gaming. the drivers that win 8.1 users don't cope with the 2 cards.
tried reinstalling the win 8.0 drivers, but any program that tries to use the radon card just crashes.
win 8.1 is running fine but can't use the laptop for games etc, until samsung release updated drivers.

also upgraded a desktop & 3 laptops with out any problems. the oldest laptop took about 3-4 hours & the pc about 1 hour

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  Reply # 917560 19-Oct-2013 22:47
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event2: WIDI no longer works for me after 8.1 but over seem similar.

I like haveing the same desktop and start background.

Would of been nice for a shutdown\logoff\restart button to have been added somewhere easier to get to.

Nice and easy to update form me, took 45 minutes on HP spectre xt laptop.


Miracast is built into Windows 8.1, go to the Charms bar, devices, project, add wireless display

right click on Start Button, shut down or sign out, signout, sleep, shutdown, restart



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  Reply # 917571 19-Oct-2013 23:05
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nzrock: HI all

if you have a samsung laptop model NP350V5C-S09AU i would not upgrade it to win 8.1 yet. this laptop has two video cards,  a low power intel & a radon for gaming. the drivers that win 8.1 users don't cope with the 2 cards.
tried reinstalling the win 8.0 drivers, but any program that tries to use the radon card just crashes.
win 8.1 is running fine but can't use the laptop for games etc, until samsung release updated drivers.

also upgraded a desktop & 3 laptops with out any problems. the oldest laptop took about 3-4 hours & the pc about 1 hour


I have a Similar samsung laptop, thanks for that info:)

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  Reply # 917591 19-Oct-2013 23:51
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nzrock: HI all

if you have a samsung laptop model NP350V5C-S09AU i would not upgrade it to win 8.1 yet. this laptop has two video cards,  a low power intel & a radon for gaming. the drivers that win 8.1 users don't cope with the 2 cards.
tried reinstalling the win 8.0 drivers, but any program that tries to use the radon card just crashes.
win 8.1 is running fine but can't use the laptop for games etc, until samsung release updated drivers.

also upgraded a desktop & 3 laptops with out any problems. the oldest laptop took about 3-4 hours & the pc about 1 hour


please run DXDIAG and send me a copy of the log file it generates and I'll find out what drivers you should be using

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  Reply # 917599 20-Oct-2013 00:04
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nathan:
nzrock: HI all

if you have a samsung laptop model NP350V5C-S09AU i would not upgrade it to win 8.1 yet. this laptop has two video cards,  a low power intel & a radon for gaming. the drivers that win 8.1 users don't cope with the 2 cards.
tried reinstalling the win 8.0 drivers, but any program that tries to use the radon card just crashes.
win 8.1 is running fine but can't use the laptop for games etc, until samsung release updated drivers.

also upgraded a desktop & 3 laptops with out any problems. the oldest laptop took about 3-4 hours & the pc about 1 hour


please run DXDIAG and send me a copy of the log file it generates and I'll find out what drivers you should be using


Microsoft NZ you really need to make it cheap or a free upgrade from Windows 7 aswell. You want people to use the new OS. Its too expensive Im 16 I cant afford it. This is the reason people pirate!

 

 

 

I dont see why people shouldnt be allowed to swap their windows 7 licence to a windows 8 one?

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  Reply # 917604 20-Oct-2013 00:19
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Upgraded a Samsung Ativ book 9 without issue. Am using start 8 so can barely notice any change.. Download took about 20 minutes last night.

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