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ScuL:charsleysa: I really hope they don't, those who cannot use the Windows 8 UI either are incapable of change or wish to be ignorant to change.
I enjoy the new UI, it makes things easier. In fact some things are easier to do on Windows 8, but the only thing that springs to mind that's more difficult is pairing a bluetooth device because it requires an extra step.
How about don't fix what isn't broken? The previous interface has worked fine from 95 onward to NT, 98, ME, 2000, Vista and 7 and millions of people are accustomed to this workflow.
The best solution to this problem is to allow the user to choose - and this has not been allowed - instead people have been forced, and now Microsoft are crawling back on their decisions..
What you find easier may not be easier for another person. It would be much nicer if the OS was a bit more customisable with the ability to pick different themes (i.e. Aero Glass vs. Metro). Switch start menu on or off, switch metro launcher on or off, change sizes / colours of menu's and so forth and allow people to create "UI" presets that can be distributed across corporate networks to keep the business happy. If they had done that the resistance would not have been as strong.
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jeffnz:
TBH I haven't had a real play with 8 but will at some stage but can't afford or justify the cost, maybe if MS offered free upgrades from 7 I would, hint hint Nathan ;)
charsleysa:
This kind of thinking is the incorrect way to look at windows 8.
You say don't fix what isn't broken, but windows 8 didn't aim to fix the desktop. The aim of Windows 8 was to provide a new generation of UI that would be the same across all devices.
The new UI hasn't removed any functionality, it's just changed the look. All the things the start menu had are still there, there's still an "All Programs" section, there's still a "My Computer" it's just called "This PC", etc.
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ScuL:
Fair enough but who decides what is the correct way or the incorrect way of thinking?
What is correct for one person may not be correct for another.
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Gilco2: except for the fact we have always been dictated to how to use a computer over the years if you look at it that way. With Dos, and all versions of windows you used what Microsoft designed. Same with Apple etc. Even Linux you use whatever manager someone has made unless you are clever enough to design your own operating system.
charsleysa:
The aim of Windows 8 was to provide a new generation of UI that would be the same across all devices.
sbiddle:
On my machine I run in desktop mode 99% of the time and have a start menu replacement app that I still use.
Ragnor:charsleysa:
The aim of Windows 8 was to provide a new generation of UI that would be the same across all devices.
Which is a pretty dumb idea given the use cases of portable touch devices vs desktop are completely different..
You don't see IOS on the iMac or Macbook, just on the ipad and iphone where it belongs. I appreciate what MS tried to do but I think there should have been a global switch between tablet mode and dekstop mode rather than a mish-mash of two UI's.
The touch UI gets in the way on a desktop with a mouse/keyboard and multiple monitors.
Neilsen's UX review nails the problems with Win 8 at release
http://www.nngroup.com/articles/windows-8-disappointing-usability/
To be fair 8.1 improves things quite a bit with boot to desktop, go to desktop when all apps are closed etc etc... I would like to see further desktop focused improvements in 8.x though.
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joker97:
whatabout touchscreen laptops? are they desktop or tablets?
sbiddle: I played with Windows8 numerous times during the beta and hated many aspects of it. I then got a new laptop in August that came with 8 (and had no choice but to use it as HP didn't release Win7 drivers until Sept) and have so say I don't see why there are so many haters. I love it.
On my machine I run in desktop mode 99% of the time and have a start menu replacement app that I still use. With this the experience is virtually identical to Win7 with all the added performance gains that 8 offers. There are only a couple of things that annoy me, and they're focused around apps such as the built in photo show and music player that are Metro apps, not desktop apps.
Others have commented on here that the issue is with people wanting to replicate the desktop experience. I disagree and believe the issue is with the Metro UI. On a touchscreen device the Metro UI is great using 8.1, but the major problem is the number of Metro apps is so low you spend half your life back in desktop mode with a UI that's not designed for touch devices.
Ragnor:charsleysa:
The aim of Windows 8 was to provide a new generation of UI that would be the same across all devices.
Which is a pretty dumb idea given the use cases of portable touch devices vs desktop are completely different..
You don't see IOS on the iMac or Macbook, just on the ipad and iphone where it belongs. I appreciate what MS tried to do but I think there should have been a global switch between tablet mode and dekstop mode rather than a mish-mash of two UI's.
The touch UI gets in the way on a desktop with a mouse/keyboard and multiple monitors.
Neilsen's UX review nails the problems with Win 8 at release
http://www.nngroup.com/articles/windows-8-disappointing-usability/
To be fair 8.1 improves things quite a bit with boot to desktop, go to desktop when all apps are closed etc etc... I would like to see further desktop focused improvements in 8.x though.
charsleysa:
Who ever wrote that review sounds like a dumba$$.
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