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  Reply # 1058486 3-Jun-2014 13:01
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CYaBro: Just antivirus by itself isn't really good enough these days.
We recommend Eset NOD32 plus something like Malwarebytes Premium.

I had malwarebytes but trying to get him to actually run it is going against brick wall.   He does his sermons and email etc.  Once he went to internet he now also learned how to google and that is his downfall. Doing sermon on mature man, google that and all inappropriate answers come up.
  He had to download adobe acrobat or reader for his USA taxes as other pdf readers were not compatible and he never unticked all the addons and same with other programs


There is a free version of Malwarebytes, which can only do manual scans when the user does one, the Premium version runs in the background all time time, like the AV software, and blocks things before they can get into Windows.




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  Reply # 1058511 3-Jun-2014 13:09
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nakedmolerat: It is painful for me to say this, get them a Mac.


It won't solve the problem. They would probably have trojans installed in no time. 




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1058535 3-Jun-2014 13:39
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Gilco2:
Yabanize:
nakedmolerat: It is painful for me to say this, get them a Mac.


Or linux..
yeah i did suggest it but they want to stay with Windows.  But honestly something like Linux Mint would be ideal for them.


Neither of which are immune and the learning curve will just complicate life needlessly for them




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  Reply # 1058581 3-Jun-2014 14:38
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nathan: what is it the users are doing that they even require AV let alone Malware Bytes or EMET

dodgy websites?  dodgy email attachments?  running as local admin?

just curious...


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  Reply # 1058609 3-Jun-2014 15:10
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nathan: what is it the users are doing that they even require AV let alone Malware Bytes or EMET

dodgy websites?  dodgy email attachments?  running as local admin?

just curious...


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  Reply # 1058657 3-Jun-2014 16:34
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Sorry, couldnt resist, the Window was open for it....

No, you are right in a way, but it comes down to education with users being aware of whats dodgy and whats not etc. Didnt help my last boss though....  he fell for oldest trick in the book - "insert CC number here and we'll give you anything you want". Thankfully he managed to cancel his card the next day, but still left me in disbelief that he fell for it, a "veteran" of the internet.

I never bothered with AV etc for a few years until a friend backed up her PC to mine and I was wondering why my system was running like crap... all her files were infected - she was running Symantec AV which didnt pick up a thing. I installed AVG and thankfully stopped the virus getting too far. (and pulled the plug on her backing up)






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  Reply # 1058697 3-Jun-2014 17:42
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I'd not use MSE there are much better options available for free MSE doesn't even gain a score for protection from well known AVtest.org it gets a big 0/6 

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  Reply # 1058752 3-Jun-2014 18:20
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Avast! rates best amongst the free options, according to my research a few months back. It updates automagically.




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  Reply # 1058760 3-Jun-2014 18:44
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Free: Avast Free
Paid: ESET Anti-Virus / ESET Smart Security, in his case he would need to get the Smart Security Edition as it comes with Anti-Spam.

I used to recommend MSE about a year ago but it just misses so many viruses these days and gets disabled by them too that it isn't really worth mentioning anymore.

Also have Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and SuperAntiSpyware installed, also SpywareBlaster for good measure.

Then make sure you install Google Chrome or Firefox and install Adblock Plus, then for even more protection you can install Mcafee Siteadvisor, though it will slow down his browsing a tad.

Even though it's irritating keep UAC (User account control) enabled, helps in some cases.

Once you have done all of this you can make a new standard user account and have him use that instead of the administrator account, should help slow down those pesky viruses.

Run quick scans with Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware at least once every 2 weeks and full scans once a month.

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  Reply # 1059222 4-Jun-2014 15:42
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Couldn't he ask his employer to exempt him the inconvenience of running antivirus?  

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  Reply # 1059287 4-Jun-2014 18:45
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lNomNoml:...then for even more protection you can install Mcafee Siteadvisor, though it will slow down his browsing a tad.


There's also WOT which can be set to disable click-through on flagged sites.

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freitasm: If looking for free MSE *PLUS* EMET 4.1.

If willing to pay, ESET NOD32 or Norton 360, *PLUS* EMET 4.1.


A million times this.

Why EMET still flies under the radar of so many people, I just don't understand.
Why more tech blogs/sites don't sing it's praises, I don't understand.

Free exploit mitigation! What's not to love?



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  Reply # 1059426 4-Jun-2014 21:48
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muppet:
freitasm: If looking for free MSE *PLUS* EMET 4.1.

If willing to pay, ESET NOD32 or Norton 360, *PLUS* EMET 4.1.


A million times this.

Why EMET still flies under the radar of so many people, I just don't understand.
Why more tech blogs/sites don't sing it's praises, I don't understand.

Free exploit mitigation! What's not to love?
yeah i had never heard of it until freitasm mentioned it.  Am going with MSE and setting it to scan 9am Fridady mornings as the computer will definitely be on then for couple of hours. also EMET 4.1





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  Reply # 1060174 6-Jun-2014 00:56
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rhy7s:
lNomNoml:...then for even more protection you can install Mcafee Siteadvisor, though it will slow down his browsing a tad.


There's also WOT which can be set to disable click-through on flagged sites.


Yeah I put WOT on noobs computers, helps prevent people going to dodgy sites


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  Reply # 1071261 20-Jun-2014 19:10
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nathan: what is it the users are doing that they even require AV let alone Malware Bytes or EMET

dodgy websites?  dodgy email attachments?  running as local admin?

just curious...
lots of legit sites are getting infected. I've seen a virus come in from a google image search for chocolate. Didn't even visit the site, the browser seemed to download part of the infected site with the image from the google site (renders the page in a frame to ensure the image loads, or some such)

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