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  # 86785 15-Sep-2007 15:36
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Still waiting for a reply to above.

By the way, what about anti-spyware tools?

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  # 86790 15-Sep-2007 16:33
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Yes but presumably EICAR is useful because it has characteristics a virus scanner would recognise in a true virus.

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  # 86792 15-Sep-2007 16:33
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Personally, I don't think so, because it identified and quarantined the "threat", but it's up to you.
I'm not familiar with either ZA or NOD32, but it sounds like NOD has a similar module to Avast, in that it is able to identify suspect content prior to download, and prevent the download.
I like that added layer myself, but if the scanner is able to stop the threat when it tries to run, it's still doing it's job.

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The characteristics are, I believe, the identification of the file via signature database, rather than by "guessing" its likely behaviour.

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# 86794 15-Sep-2007 16:36
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paulchinnz: Yes but presumably EICAR is useful because it has characteristics a virus scanner would recognise in a true virus.


Are you using the Zone Alarm AntiVirus product or just the Zone Alarm firewall?

As I said EICAR is a test file. All anti-virus have to react to it. How they react os different from product to product...





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# 86797 15-Sep-2007 16:54
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Ah I see what you mean by different actions Mauricio. It may not make a difference to the outcome whether the scanner recognised EICAR while saving the file or after saving the file.

Tarq, I thought heuristics or something means that some scanners can predict whether a novel programme that is not in it's database is a virus or not.

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  # 86800 15-Sep-2007 17:18
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Yes, heuristics is that, as far as I understand.
I would guess that all virus/malware scanners would have the signature of the EICAR file in their databases.
Avast (and, I guess, NOD) don't need to rely on heuristics to block it. I guess they have a wee peep at the download source, first.
But all should alert to it when it is saved.

 
 
 
 


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  # 86825 16-Sep-2007 09:47
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So does anyone use programmes specific for anti-spyware?

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  # 86827 16-Sep-2007 09:58
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Yes. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=45&TopicId=15505&page_no=1#83900

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  # 86828 16-Sep-2007 10:05
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Thanks Tarq had read that, hence my question about specific (i.e. doesn't do anything else e.g. I've heard Webroot Spysweeper's pretty good) programmes peole use for antispyware.

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  # 86829 16-Sep-2007 10:10
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Both of my PC's run Windows Defender. Also, the XP machine runs SPYBOT Search and Destroy and Lavasoft Ad-aware 2007.

All of these are free, and do a really good job.

The Vista machine only runs Windows Defender.

I also run anti-virus software...

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  # 86839 16-Sep-2007 13:14
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Had forgotten about Lavasoft and Spybot. Thanks for the reminder!

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