Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8
5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354743 29-Jul-2015 18:11
Send private message

richms: Ok worked on the slow 16 gig stick second time around.

Its now "preparing" on the lappy so will see how this goes.

Edit: Ok, its asking for a key, which I dont have because this is a windows 8.1 machine with it inbuilt anyway.

FFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!


Windows 10 needs a Windows 10 key

Your Windows 8.1 key has a Windows 8.1 key.  You get the Windows 10 key by upgrading your activated version of Windows 8.1.

Once you’ve upgraded to Windows 10 using the free upgrade offer, you will be able to reinstall, including a clean install, on the same device. You won’t need a product key for re-activations on the same hardware. If you make a meaningful change to your hardware, you may need to contact customer support to help with activation. You’ll also be able to create your own installation media like a USB drive or DVD, and use that to upgrade your device or reinstall after you’ve upgraded.

22347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1354744 29-Jul-2015 18:13
Send private message

Ok so how do I get the free update offer to appear? This seems a lot more difficult than it should be.




Richard rich.ms

 
 
 
 


5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354745 29-Jul-2015 18:14
Send private message

richms: Ok so how do I get the free update offer to appear? This seems a lot more difficult than it should be.


run setup.exe from the ISO you downloaded in your activated Windows 7/8/8.1 machine

22347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1354746 29-Jul-2015 18:14
Send private message

And will I have to download the 3 gigs in windows update on every PC that it will work on?




Richard rich.ms

5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354747 29-Jul-2015 18:16
Send private message

richms: And will I have to download the 3 gigs in windows update on every PC that it will work on?


if you upgrade thru WU it will be about 3Gb per machine

so use the ISO on those machines.  You'll need to for domain joined machines etc.

5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354751 29-Jul-2015 18:24
One person supports this post
Send private message

The embedded product key would be for Windows 8.1; that won’t activate Windows 10.

 

 

 

You can use the downloadable ISO at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 which has an embedded product key.  Using that ISO, run SETUP.EXE *from within Windows 8.1 so that it can detect that you have a licensed, activated OS*.  Then when it asks what you want to migrate, choose “nothing” or “data only”.  That will result in a “clean” Windows 10 OS that can successfully activate.

 

 

 

If you do a clean install using Windows 10 media (any media) and never went through the upgrade process, you won’t have a license and the machine won’t activate.

22347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1354752 29-Jul-2015 18:24
Send private message

Ok it looks like I chose pro when I downloaded and the windows on the lappy is only good for home, a notice of that being the case would have been nice rather than just asking for a key like that.

Are there upgrades available like there was for 8 to get it to pro?




Richard rich.ms

 
 
 
 


5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354753 29-Jul-2015 18:25
Send private message

Pro Pack costs US$99

1537 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1354770 29-Jul-2015 18:39
Send private message

nathan: The embedded product key would be for Windows 8.1; that won’t activate Windows 10.  

You can use the downloadable ISO at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 which has an embedded product key.  Using that ISO, run SETUP.EXE *from within Windows 8.1 so that it can detect that you have a licensed, activated OS*.  Then when it asks what you want to migrate, choose “nothing” or “data only”.  That will result in a “clean” Windows 10 OS that can successfully activate.  

If you do a clean install using Windows 10 media (any media) and never went through the upgrade process, you won’t have a license and the machine won’t activate.


Do we skip entering the product key, or enter the 8.1, one? 

5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354776 29-Jul-2015 18:44
Send private message

semigeek:
nathan: The embedded product key would be for Windows 8.1; that won’t activate Windows 10.  

You can use the downloadable ISO at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 which has an embedded product key.  Using that ISO, run SETUP.EXE *from within Windows 8.1 so that it can detect that you have a licensed, activated OS*.  Then when it asks what you want to migrate, choose “nothing” or “data only”.  That will result in a “clean” Windows 10 OS that can successfully activate.  

If you do a clean install using Windows 10 media (any media) and never went through the upgrade process, you won’t have a license and the machine won’t activate.


Do we skip entering the product key, or enter the 8.1, one? 


you can't install a brand new copy of Win10 with an 8.1 Key.

To keep that license working, you must activate your Windows 8.1 copy, and then make the upgrade with the Win10 ISO (You must run the SETUP.EXE from the Win10 ISO in your Win 8.1 system.

1537 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1354779 29-Jul-2015 18:49
Send private message

nathan:
semigeek:
nathan: The embedded product key would be for Windows 8.1; that won’t activate Windows 10.  

You can use the downloadable ISO at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 which has an embedded product key.  Using that ISO, run SETUP.EXE *from within Windows 8.1 so that it can detect that you have a licensed, activated OS*.  Then when it asks what you want to migrate, choose “nothing” or “data only”.  That will result in a “clean” Windows 10 OS that can successfully activate.  

If you do a clean install using Windows 10 media (any media) and never went through the upgrade process, you won’t have a license and the machine won’t activate.


Do we skip entering the product key, or enter the 8.1, one? 


you can't install a brand new copy of Win10 with an 8.1 Key.

To keep that license working, you must activate your Windows 8.1 copy, and then make the upgrade with the Win10 ISO (You must run the SETUP.EXE from the Win10 ISO in your Win 8.1 system.


Yep, I know that part. I'm doing a 7 machine with SP1 and an 8.1 machine. Both are activated.  When it comes to Install from running it within windows, it asks for a product key, I enter my 7 one or 8.1 one and it says key not working or something. 


5136 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1354784 29-Jul-2015 18:53
Send private message

semigeek:
nathan:
semigeek:
nathan: The embedded product key would be for Windows 8.1; that won’t activate Windows 10.  

You can use the downloadable ISO at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 which has an embedded product key.  Using that ISO, run SETUP.EXE *from within Windows 8.1 so that it can detect that you have a licensed, activated OS*.  Then when it asks what you want to migrate, choose “nothing” or “data only”.  That will result in a “clean” Windows 10 OS that can successfully activate.  

If you do a clean install using Windows 10 media (any media) and never went through the upgrade process, you won’t have a license and the machine won’t activate.


Do we skip entering the product key, or enter the 8.1, one? 


you can't install a brand new copy of Win10 with an 8.1 Key.

To keep that license working, you must activate your Windows 8.1 copy, and then make the upgrade with the Win10 ISO (You must run the SETUP.EXE from the Win10 ISO in your Win 8.1 system.


Yep, I know that part. I'm doing a 7 machine with SP1 and an 8.1 machine. Both are activated.  When it comes to Install from running it within windows, it asks for a product key, I enter my 7 one or 8.1 one and it says key not working or something. 



does the edition of Windows match up with the ISO?

EDIT: Also does it let you just click Next without entering a key?

22347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1354790 29-Jul-2015 18:59
Send private message

Ok well the gaming PC didnt ask for a key in setup.exe, stuffed around for ages, rebooted to a screen with the choice to install windows, and that then is asking for a key. It has a skip button but I was under the impression that it would do an upgrade, yet after pressing skip it was asking if I wanted to keep my files or not.

WTF going on. reooting back into 7 if it will let me and will just leave it for now.

edit: ok real WTF. rebooted again and it asked for 32 or 64 bit install. rebooted again and its now got a big round %age upgraded thing on it so perhaps there is some hope,




Richard rich.ms

1537 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1354792 29-Jul-2015 19:00
Send private message

nathan:
semigeek:
nathan:
semigeek:
nathan: The embedded product key would be for Windows 8.1; that won’t activate Windows 10.  

You can use the downloadable ISO at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 which has an embedded product key.  Using that ISO, run SETUP.EXE *from within Windows 8.1 so that it can detect that you have a licensed, activated OS*.  Then when it asks what you want to migrate, choose “nothing” or “data only”.  That will result in a “clean” Windows 10 OS that can successfully activate.  

If you do a clean install using Windows 10 media (any media) and never went through the upgrade process, you won’t have a license and the machine won’t activate.


Do we skip entering the product key, or enter the 8.1, one? 


you can't install a brand new copy of Win10 with an 8.1 Key.

To keep that license working, you must activate your Windows 8.1 copy, and then make the upgrade with the Win10 ISO (You must run the SETUP.EXE from the Win10 ISO in your Win 8.1 system.


Yep, I know that part. I'm doing a 7 machine with SP1 and an 8.1 machine. Both are activated.  When it comes to Install from running it within windows, it asks for a product key, I enter my 7 one or 8.1 one and it says key not working or something. 



does the edition of Windows match up with the ISO?

EDIT: Also does it let you just click Next without entering a key?


Yep, well the 7 machine is 32bit so is the ISO, but I can download the ISO again to make sure. If I skip entering the key, it goes to upgrade or custom and upgrade just tells me to remove the installation media and doesn't do anything from there on in. But I can download the ISO again and see if that makes a difference. 

22347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1354798 29-Jul-2015 19:13
Send private message

It seems it was booting off the stick and thinking it needed to do a complete reinstallation, pulled the stick and it booted off the SSD and is now continuing again.

Probably confused since the SSD is partition table and not GPT so will only legacy boot so a UEFI loader would see the SSD as having no OS on it.

Bit of an oversight on their part. At least with 7 you had to specifically make the USB a UEFI booting one so if you had a legacy boot HDD/SSD it wouldnt get screwed up on a normaly preared stick.




Richard rich.ms

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel expands 10th Gen Intel Core Mobile processor family
Posted 23-Aug-2019 10:22


Digital innovation drives new investment provider
Posted 23-Aug-2019 08:29


Catalyst Cloud becomes a Kubernetes Certified Service Provider (KCSP)
Posted 23-Aug-2019 08:21


New AI legaltech product launched in New Zealand
Posted 21-Aug-2019 17:01


Yubico launches first Lightning-compatible security key, the YubiKey 5Ci
Posted 21-Aug-2019 16:46


Disney+ streaming service confirmed launch in New Zealand
Posted 20-Aug-2019 09:29


Industry plan could create a billion dollar interactive games sector
Posted 19-Aug-2019 20:41


Personal cyber insurance a New Zealand first
Posted 19-Aug-2019 20:26


University of Waikato launches space for esports
Posted 19-Aug-2019 20:20


D-Link ANZ expands mydlink ecosystem with new mydlink Mini Wi-Fi Smart Plug
Posted 19-Aug-2019 20:14


Kiwi workers still falling victim to old cyber tricks
Posted 12-Aug-2019 20:47


Lightning Lab GovTech launches 2019 programme
Posted 12-Aug-2019 20:41


Epson launches portable laser projector
Posted 12-Aug-2019 20:27


Huawei launches new distributed HarmonyOS
Posted 12-Aug-2019 20:20


Lenovo introduces single-socket servers for edge and data-intensive workloads
Posted 9-Aug-2019 21:26



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.