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  Reply # 1354630 29-Jul-2015 16:59
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Brumfondl: Media creation tool is now live at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10



Thanks for the link Brumfondi,
My PC main PC does no upgrade from the app but is downloading just fine :)

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  Reply # 1354633 29-Jul-2015 17:00
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J32: the page seems to be very flaky. I got it Firefox and downloaded the tool . Once I refreshed I got 404 again. Downloading the ISO now. Funny thing is I tried the "Upgrade this PC" option first and it told me "Something happened" and that was that.


Had the same thing happen to me. Do I select the 2nd option to download the ISO, then make a bootable USB or DVD which will then upgrade my Windows ?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1354634 29-Jul-2015 17:01
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kiwifidget:
mattwnz:
kiwifidget:
Behodar: From memory, "N" doesn't have Media Player.
I thought Media Player had been dropped from all versions of Win10.

I think that is 'media centre' 


Sorry, yes, Media Centre. So what is the difference then between N and non-N versions of Windows?


N versions are for areas like the EU where their were court cases against Microsoft including thinks like media player etc. So N does not come with it installed but you can install later.  The download without N has everything.

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  Reply # 1354637 29-Jul-2015 17:02
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StevieT:
J32: the page seems to be very flaky. I got it Firefox and downloaded the tool . Once I refreshed I got 404 again. Downloading the ISO now. Funny thing is I tried the "Upgrade this PC" option first and it told me "Something happened" and that was that.


Had the same thing happen to me. Do I select the 2nd option to download the ISO, then make a bootable USB or DVD which will then upgrade my Windows ?


Same here love the error message :)

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  Reply # 1354640 29-Jul-2015 17:07
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DeepBlueSky:
kiwifidget:
mattwnz:
kiwifidget:
Behodar: From memory, "N" doesn't have Media Player.
I thought Media Player had been dropped from all versions of Win10.

I think that is 'media centre' 


Sorry, yes, Media Centre. So what is the difference then between N and non-N versions of Windows?


N versions are for areas like the EU where their were court cases against Microsoft including thinks like media player etc. So N does not come with it installed but you can install later.  The download without N has everything.

I wish I could remember whether I ticked N or non-N in the tool. At 84% now so will wait it out.




Life is too short to remove USB safely.


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  Reply # 1354642 29-Jul-2015 17:09
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Well I have a working W10 upgrade directory, setup.exe seems to run ok, I haven't pressed the go button yet..

Historically it was considered "best practice" to do clean installs... but is that still the case with W10? I didn't have any trouble with the inplace upgrade on my laptop but I also don't use it that much, slightly more concerned on my home PC which has MANY apps etc and configs..

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  Reply # 1354643 29-Jul-2015 17:11
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I had the say "something happened" message from the upgrade option so did the bootable version on a USB drive. However running the USB boot drive with windows 10 I got the same "something happened" at the end haha... 

I haven't run it from boot as I read you have to do a upgrade first and didn't want to risk it not working on boot versus inside windows upgrade. But maybe someone else has got that far.

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  Reply # 1354646 29-Jul-2015 17:13
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Under My Computer > Properties, it lists as my operating system Windows 8.1 64-bit (and that's it). Would that mean I could only upgrade to Windows 10 Home? Because that's the option I selected.

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  Reply # 1354647 29-Jul-2015 17:13
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networkn: Well I have a working W10 upgrade directory, setup.exe seems to run ok, I haven't pressed the go button yet..

Historically it was considered "best practice" to do clean installs... but is that still the case with W10? I didn't have any trouble with the inplace upgrade on my laptop but I also don't use it that much, slightly more concerned on my home PC which has MANY apps etc and configs..


Sounds like you have to do a upgrade the first time, from then on you can do a "clean" install. 

"Please be aware that you cannot use the free upgrade offer to perform a clean install on first attempt. You must first upgrade from the qualifying version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 (whether you do it through Windows Update or using the .ISO file). Ensure the upgrade is completed successfully and then ensure that it is activated. You can then proceed to do a clean install by using recovery media or using the Reset function in Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC (Get Started)."

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_install/how-to-upgrade-from-previous-versions-of-windows/31722b30-1da9-42bb-b331-0edc4649bf43

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  Reply # 1354649 29-Jul-2015 17:14
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StevieT: Under My Computer > Properties, it lists as my operating system Windows 8.1 64-bit (and that's it). Would that mean I could only upgrade to Windows 10 Home? Because that's the option I selected.


You can check if you have pro or home windows 8 by:

 

     

  1. From the Start screen, type winver and press enter.
  2. Take note of the version in the About dialog window.

 


https://answers.uchicago.edu/page.php?id=27505

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  Reply # 1354651 29-Jul-2015 17:15
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networkn: Well I have a working W10 upgrade directory, setup.exe seems to run ok, I haven't pressed the go button yet..

Historically it was considered "best practice" to do clean installs... but is that still the case with W10? I didn't have any trouble with the inplace upgrade on my laptop but I also don't use it that much, slightly more concerned on my home PC which has MANY apps etc and configs..


Probably, but to get the free license you need to do an upgrade so that it generates a Windows 10 key for your machine. Once that is done and W10 installed you can then clean install to your hearts content.

When you install from the ISO I think you get the option to keep no data, etc. I would guess that this is as close as you can get to clean from the initial install. I'm betting you still end up with a Windows.old and other hangers on though.





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  Reply # 1354652 29-Jul-2015 17:15
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Jattennz: I had the say "something happened" message from the upgrade option so did the bootable version on a USB drive. However running the USB boot drive with windows 10 I got the same "something happened" at the end haha... 

I haven't run it from boot as I read you have to do a upgrade first and didn't want to risk it not working on boot versus inside windows upgrade. But maybe someone else has got that far.


So you haven't tried restarting your computer, and letting it boot from USB? What kind of upgrade do you need to perform first?

This is turning into a nightmare... with so much information out there on how to go about installing Windows 10.

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  Reply # 1354654 29-Jul-2015 17:15
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Jattennz:
networkn: Well I have a working W10 upgrade directory, setup.exe seems to run ok, I haven't pressed the go button yet..

Historically it was considered "best practice" to do clean installs... but is that still the case with W10? I didn't have any trouble with the inplace upgrade on my laptop but I also don't use it that much, slightly more concerned on my home PC which has MANY apps etc and configs..


Sounds like you have to do a upgrade the first time, from then on you can do a "clean" install. 

"Please be aware that you cannot use the free upgrade offer to perform a clean install on first attempt. You must first upgrade from the qualifying version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 (whether you do it through Windows Update or using the .ISO file). Ensure the upgrade is completed successfully and then ensure that it is activated. You can then proceed to do a clean install by using recovery media or using the Reset function in Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC (Get Started)."

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_install/how-to-upgrade-from-previous-versions-of-windows/31722b30-1da9-42bb-b331-0edc4649bf43


Yes indeed that stores your license key and hardware ID In the cloud for any reinstalls in the future.

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  Reply # 1354656 29-Jul-2015 17:16
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Jattennz:
networkn: Well I have a working W10 upgrade directory, setup.exe seems to run ok, I haven't pressed the go button yet..

Historically it was considered "best practice" to do clean installs... but is that still the case with W10? I didn't have any trouble with the inplace upgrade on my laptop but I also don't use it that much, slightly more concerned on my home PC which has MANY apps etc and configs..


Sounds like you have to do a upgrade the first time, from then on you can do a "clean" install. 

"Please be aware that you cannot use the free upgrade offer to perform a clean install on first attempt. You must first upgrade from the qualifying version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 (whether you do it through Windows Update or using the .ISO file). Ensure the upgrade is completed successfully and then ensure that it is activated. You can then proceed to do a clean install by using recovery media or using the Reset function in Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC (Get Started)."

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_install/how-to-upgrade-from-previous-versions-of-windows/31722b30-1da9-42bb-b331-0edc4649bf43


Thanks, that makes it much clearer.

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  Reply # 1354662 29-Jul-2015 17:23
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Jattennz:
networkn: Well I have a working W10 upgrade directory, setup.exe seems to run ok, I haven't pressed the go button yet..

Historically it was considered "best practice" to do clean installs... but is that still the case with W10? I didn't have any trouble with the inplace upgrade on my laptop but I also don't use it that much, slightly more concerned on my home PC which has MANY apps etc and configs..


Sounds like you have to do a upgrade the first time, from then on you can do a "clean" install. 

"Please be aware that you cannot use the free upgrade offer to perform a clean install on first attempt. You must first upgrade from the qualifying version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 (whether you do it through Windows Update or using the .ISO file). Ensure the upgrade is completed successfully and then ensure that it is activated. You can then proceed to do a clean install by using recovery media or using the Reset function in Start > Settings > Update & Security > Recovery > Reset this PC (Get Started)."

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_install/how-to-upgrade-from-previous-versions-of-windows/31722b30-1da9-42bb-b331-0edc4649bf43


Yes indeed that stores your license key and hardware ID In the cloud for any reinstalls in the future.


What hardware can be changed without affecting the hardware ID?




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