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  # 1359950 6-Aug-2015 12:51
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freitasm:
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It makes me feel Windows 10 is not finished, by a long way. We are basically involved in one of the largest beta in the world. This isn't good.



Has there ever been a Windows OS that has been any different? I cant help but think back to the days of Win 95, Windows ME, Vista, and that awful first drop of the dreadful Windows 8. Granted XP and Windows 7 have probably rated as the best. But I think for completeness Windows 10 is right up there with XP and 7. In fact I'm having less problems with 10 than I ever had on XP or Win7. 

So there is now patch which is missing its release notes.
Hopefully the release notes are published soon. In the meantime if you worried about it, simply don't install it. 


I think Windows XP and Windows 7 were very well polished. The monthly updates were bug fixes, and that's understandable. Windows 8 was a disaster in terms of UI and UX. Windows 10 is nicely done but lots of small things that require a few more clicks than before, are harder to find, not in the most intuitive places. That's what I mean by "not finished".

MikeB4: You can look upon Windows being like Linux Distributions and OSX and constantly evolving, it is new to the Windows ecosystem and will take some getting used to, I am OK with it coming from a Linux/OSX background


I fully expect OS to have patches as required, for new features and bug fixes. I have been in this game for many years - think CP/M, Burroughs MCP, etc since the mid 80s. I think some of your comments in this thread are condescending. If some people feel things aren't quite right and you feel different doesn't make it right. Perhaps these people have different views.

What I think is "annoying" is having somethings moved around or redone in a way that either make things harder than before, or obscure then so much it's a pain to use. Small things such as two more clicks to connect to a VPN. Yes, sure,  a batch file might work but why break what was working fine before? Or the links to KB articles from Windows Update. Small things that leave this bad taste.




A lot of what has been done feels like change for changes sakes. VERY few of the UI changes, have made me work faster and like MF, I have been around in IT a long time. There ARE good things in both W10 and W8/W8.1, it feels faster etc, but I have struck more "in my face" issues with W10 than I have ever done before, including RTM versions of W8, which was unfamiliar and somewhat confusing, but not as "buggy". As I have said before, it feels deadlines were prioritized over polish and finish.  I also understand that given how widely deployed Windows is, there will inevitably be problems with some configurations, you can't get it 100% right, however stuff I am experiencing feel like it could have been nailed before release.

I'd love to know who/ how the decision to use white title-bars and make the ability to change it was taken away, was finalized. It's hard to believe a bunch of people were shown this and thought to themselves as a group "wow that looks so much better than before". 

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I'd like to try edge as a daily driver, but I don't think it supports multiple profiles? My current setup is a 2 chrome shortcuts with different profiles, one for me and one for my partner.

 

 

Thereby we just open our own browser whenever we're at the PC, which is handy for separate logins to all sorts of sites and separate sets of bookmarks etc.

 

 

I have no reason to maintain two user profiles for the PC as a whole as my partner literally only uses the browser.

 

 

Is this, or will this be possible with edge?

 
 
 
 


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  # 1360488 7-Aug-2015 09:04
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Sorry I made a thread for this before, and only just saw this topic now, feel free to delete my thread,

Anyhow my original question was..

I installed Windows 10 yesterday, yay! I was thinking about it for a long time, as I know these things usually have errors, I usually wait until they've been around for a few months. But I thought I'll just go for it and do it straight away.

Anyways, I've only been on the actual desktop about 3 times (For about 20 mins before something I click, be it iTunes or VLC media player) before it freezes, and gives me a blue screen error. It is usually 2 blue screen errors it gives me, the most common one is..

"DRIVER_STATE_POWER_FAILURE" - it probably restarts at least 10 times in a row with this message.

The other message I get is,

"DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION" I get this one quite a lot too, but not as much as the other one. 

The laptop itself is a Toshiba Sateliette L50 (I think), it's only about a year and a half old.

I don't exactly know where my Microsoft Install disc is if anyone asks, but .. can anyone please help me?

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  # 1360493 7-Aug-2015 09:11
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As per my reply to the thread you removed. More info is needed.

Blue screens typically contain all the information you need to track down the problem. The lower half of the error names the offending item. What is it?




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  # 1360494 7-Aug-2015 09:12
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Batwing: I'd like to try edge as a daily driver, but I don't think it supports multiple profiles? My current setup is a 2 chrome shortcuts with different profiles, one for me and one for my partner. Thereby we just open our own browser whenever we're at the PC, which is handy for separate logins to all sorts of sites and separate sets of bookmarks etc. I have no reason to maintain two user profiles for the PC as a whole as my partner literally only uses the browser. Is this, or will this be possible with edge?


its not currently possible in Edge

This feedback would be great for you to put into the Windows Feedback app, that is how we track user requests for new features and prioritise them based on upvotes from the Windows community

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  # 1360525 7-Aug-2015 09:36
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originalGeorge: Sorry I made a thread for this before, and only just saw this topic now, feel free to delete my thread,

Anyhow my original question was..

I installed Windows 10 yesterday, yay! I was thinking about it for a long time, as I know these things usually have errors, I usually wait until they've been around for a few months. But I thought I'll just go for it and do it straight away.

Anyways, I've only been on the actual desktop about 3 times (For about 20 mins before something I click, be it iTunes or VLC media player) before it freezes, and gives me a blue screen error. It is usually 2 blue screen errors it gives me, the most common one is..

"DRIVER_STATE_POWER_FAILURE" - it probably restarts at least 10 times in a row with this message.

The other message I get is,

"DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION" I get this one quite a lot too, but not as much as the other one. 

The laptop itself is a Toshiba Sateliette L50 (I think), it's only about a year and a half old.

I don't exactly know where my Microsoft Install disc is if anyone asks, but .. can anyone please help me?


It is either a hardware or driver failure. If this started with Windows 10 I would say it's a driver issue. Check for driver updates from your manufacturer.





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  # 1360547 7-Aug-2015 10:04
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andrewNZ: As per my reply to the thread you removed. More info is needed.

Blue screens typically contain all the information you need to track down the problem. The lower half of the error names the offending item. What is it?


Sorry Andrew it doesn't give me any other information? Just that error driver state power failure.

freitasm:

It is either a hardware or driver failure. If this started with Windows 10 I would say it's a driver issue. Check for driver updates from your manufacturer.



It started on 8.1, and it did it a few times but was okay since, but now it is doing it again.

How can I do that if the computer barely stays on? I'm pretty sure last time I tried, there was no updated to be had. Where do I look?

Much apprecitated guys

 
 
 
 


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  # 1360561 7-Aug-2015 10:38
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Open Device Manager and take note of driver versions for usual suspects - video, network, SATA devices. Then go to the manufacturer website and check if there is anything new for your specific model.

Also if this is an Intel-based machine might as well download the Intel Driver Update Utility and let it run to see if there's any update for their own software.





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  # 1360565 7-Aug-2015 10:50
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freitasm: Open Device Manager and take note of driver versions for usual suspects - video, network, SATA devices. Then go to the manufacturer website and check if there is anything new for your specific model.

Also if this is an Intel-based machine might as well download the Intel Driver Update Utility and let it run to see if there's any update for their own software.



Thanks Freity mate I'll try this when I get home!

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  # 1361147 8-Aug-2015 14:14
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Hm,

I upgraded from win 8 to 10 on my laptop, then switched the RAM, SSD and Wifi card. Did a clean install but windows won't activate..

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  # 1361165 8-Aug-2015 14:57
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Was it activated before you updated those bits




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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  # 1361177 8-Aug-2015 15:24
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Xeon, I did an install on a new SSD.  When I did a clean install I did it from within windows 7.  So had the new SSD attached via another SATA cable, ran the fresh install after Win 7 startup and choose fresh install, had no issues.  It has the bonus of leaving your 7 alone and then you can just drag files after its completed into your new setup.

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  # 1361182 8-Aug-2015 15:37
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joker97: Was it activated before you updated those bits


Yep was activated.

itxtme: Xeon, I did an install on a new SSD.  When I did a clean install I did it from within windows 7.  So had the new SSD attached via another SATA cable, ran the fresh install after Win 7 startup and choose fresh install, had no issues.  It has the bonus of leaving your 7 alone and then you can just drag files after its completed into your new setup.


Laptop only has a single SATA connection.
I guess I could try clone the other drive to a partition on this SSD but that might just break things with the other OSs.
Or I could just use my Win 10 key from Dreamspark but that's a bit of a waste.

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  # 1361189 8-Aug-2015 15:58
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Oh Lame, sorry didnt realise it was a Laptop

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  # 1361198 8-Aug-2015 16:24
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Well just done my 4th machine and this has some issues.

The installation went fine but there are no drivers for my ATI Radeon HD5450 that support 1920x1080 over VGA. That resolution only works over DVI. You might ask what is the issue but I have three computers connected to a KVM and they are all only VGA going to a native 1920x1080 monitor so I need that resolution over VGA.

I did try to install the last Catalyst drivers but it didn't offer that resolution. On my other computers with Nvidia GEForce 8400GS cards 1920x1080 was also not supported after installation but somehow Windows Update downloaded drivers that did.

I tried to wait for Windows Update drivers for the Radeon but so far nothing. I don't want to buy a new video card and would prefer not to back out Windows 10 but it's not clear what other options I have.

Ideas?




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