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  # 1375743 28-Aug-2015 15:33
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I have a very small window of opportunity before Microsoft NZ Ignite keynote to chat with Joe Belfiore, Corp VP PC, Tablet and Phones. Any special questions - and being realistic here, not specific complains but directions, strategy, etc.



My question would be: Currently TH2 is being released as new builds to Windows Insiders. When it is finalised will it be a full build upgrade like like the current Windows 7/8 to 10 experience or more like a service pack installation of old?

Probably won't get an answer but it will be nice if you can try :)


i'm expecting it to be a full build upgrade type of experience based on the way the insider program worked, but not 100% sure.  I did daily builds like this for a while - they took ~ an hour each time




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# 1375744 28-Aug-2015 15:34
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Anyone had the start menu play up, where you cant type (like search) into it anymore.

Mines been doing it all day, I haven't rebooted yet, and that might fix it, but wondering if anyone else had this...

 
 
 
 


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  # 1375768 28-Aug-2015 15:39
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Regs: i'm expecting it to be a full build upgrade type of experience based on the way the insider program worked, but not 100% sure.  I did daily builds like this for a while - they took ~ an hour each time


I am guessing you are right, purely on the basis of why would you release it to insiders differently to how you will roll it out to the rest of the consumers. It would be nice to get a definite answer though :)





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  # 1375828 28-Aug-2015 17:06
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Dairyxox: Anyone had the start menu play up, where you cant type (like search) into it anymore.

Mines been doing it all day, I haven't rebooted yet, and that might fix it, but wondering if anyone else had this...


I had that for awhile and then it fixed itself. I have no idea what caused it or what fixed it.





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  # 1375833 28-Aug-2015 17:21
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Is there any easy way to restore the a proper 'run' the the start menu? Only thing I really miss, I used that a lot. 




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  # 1375840 28-Aug-2015 17:45
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You will have to learn short keys. Try windows + R




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  # 1375851 28-Aug-2015 18:30
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Dairyxox: Anyone had the start menu play up, where you cant type (like search) into it anymore.

Mines been doing it all day, I haven't rebooted yet, and that might fix it, but wondering if anyone else had this...


Yep, so far I think I have managed to hit every bug or problem that everyone else has had! Lucky me.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1375853 28-Aug-2015 18:32
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Dreal: Is there any easy way to restore the a proper 'run' the the start menu? Only thing I really miss, I used that a lot. 


I do too, though right click run is something I am getting used to and Windows R.

Try this perhaps: 

http://wind8apps.com/add-run-command-start-menu-windows-10/

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  # 1375856 28-Aug-2015 18:46
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Dreal: Is there any easy way to restore the a proper 'run' the the start menu? Only thing I really miss, I used that a lot. 


I do too, though right click run is something I am getting used to and Windows R.

Try this perhaps: 

http://wind8apps.com/add-run-command-start-menu-windows-10/


I tried that, and for some reason it didn't work. 

Also win+R isn't always an option, I have windows 10 on my tablet, and i am not always using hard keys. I don't mind the shortcut at all, but I'd rather have the click option right there.

I might even install classic start. Even though I'd like to keep the tiles. I sort of want something in between win7 and win10 start menu wise. The win10 start menu is slightly stripped down for my liking. No app submenus etc.  

I wonder is there anything like that, something that can modify the win10 start menu, but not radically? like a slight customization. If it existed, it could also modify the toggles in the action center, and change the 'skin' look. That would be AWESOME. 




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  # 1375875 28-Aug-2015 18:56
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Start10 isn't a bad option.


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  # 1375888 28-Aug-2015 19:20
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networkn: Start10 isn't a bad option.



StartIsBack is even better (and cheaper).




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  # 1375899 28-Aug-2015 19:47
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That looks good actually, just what I am after, provides a modified Windows 10 style start. 

Pity it can't add toggles to the action center, but otherwise its perfect. Cheers!




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  # 1375901 28-Aug-2015 19:59
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Dreal: That looks good actually, just what I am after, provides a modified Windows 10 style start. 

Pity it can't add toggles to the action center, but otherwise its perfect. Cheers!


StartIsBack can toggle to the Windows 10 Start screen (optional feature).




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  # 1375939 28-Aug-2015 22:54
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Brumfondl:
Regs: i'm expecting it to be a full build upgrade type of experience based on the way the insider program worked, but not 100% sure.  I did daily builds like this for a while - they took ~ an hour each time


I am guessing you are right, purely on the basis of why would you release it to insiders differently to how you will roll it out to the rest of the consumers. It would be nice to get a definite answer though :)


The Q4 2015 update will be a full in-place upgrade (OS swap).

Future updates will switch to a more servicing-oriented approach. 

You will be able to go directly from Windows 7/8/8.1 to the Q4 2015 or other future upgrades using a single in-place upgrade (same ~3GB size).

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  # 1375941 28-Aug-2015 23:06
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nathan: The Q4 2015 update will be a full in-place upgrade (OS swap).

Future updates will switch to a more servicing-oriented approach. 

You will be able to go directly from Windows 7/8/8.1 to the Q4 2015 or other future upgrades using a single in-place upgrade (same ~3GB size).


Thank you for the clarification, Sir :) This explains a things that I have been hearing on Windows Weekly from Paul Thurrott and co.

Gues MF won't need to ask my question any more.





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