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  # 1355999 31-Jul-2015 13:09
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CYaBro:
mattwnz:
Axeman480:
coffeebaron: Once you've done the upgrade, is there a way to find your Windows 10 product key? E.G. if you wanted later to do a full offline reinstall, or your hardware changed so it couldn't match to your key stored in the cloud?



I used https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/   to grab my key from win10 install 


I found that by skipping entering in the key on the full clean install (after I had previously done an win 10 upgrade), it automatcailly  fills it in when you go to the settings, and activates.


Yea you don't need the key at all.
I tested it on one of our laptops here.
Did the upgrade to Windows 10 Pro from Windows 7 Pro then grabbed a copy of the key with Produkey just in case.
Then I did a full fresh install, wiping the HDD in the process, and during the setup/installation it did prompt me to enter in a key but there is the option to Skip which I did.  It prompted again during the first start wizard after the installation but again I just skipped it.
Once I was in Windows 10 again checked the System properties and it was activated.  Checked with Produkey and it has the same key as before.



yes this is expected.  We store your key away so you can reinstall like this seamlessly in the future :)

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  # 1356000 31-Jul-2015 13:11
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YadaMe: User account are now a pain in the... I don't want to use a Microsoft account on some accounts, and makes it really non-obvious. Windows 10 home


computer management
Local users and groups
users

 
 
 
 


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  # 1356001 31-Jul-2015 13:11
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CYaBro:
mattwnz:
Axeman480:
coffeebaron: Once you've done the upgrade, is there a way to find your Windows 10 product key? E.G. if you wanted later to do a full offline reinstall, or your hardware changed so it couldn't match to your key stored in the cloud?



I used https://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/   to grab my key from win10 install 


I found that by skipping entering in the key on the full clean install (after I had previously done an win 10 upgrade), it automatcailly  fills it in when you go to the settings, and activates.


Yea you don't need the key at all.
I tested it on one of our laptops here.
Did the upgrade to Windows 10 Pro from Windows 7 Pro then grabbed a copy of the key with Produkey just in case.
Then I did a full fresh install, wiping the HDD in the process, and during the setup/installation it did prompt me to enter in a key but there is the option to Skip which I did.  It prompted again during the first start wizard after the installation but again I just skipped it.
Once I was in Windows 10 again checked the System properties and it was activated.  Checked with Produkey and it has the same key as before.



It's good that it does that, it must be phoning home to grab the product key based on the computers hardware codes that it got when the update was first done. It makes it a lot easier..

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  # 1356006 31-Jul-2015 13:19
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freitasm:
nathan:
freitasm: Also can't add a different search engine to Edge. 


I just changed mine to google.co.nz ->

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge  

1.Go to the search engine's website.  

2.Select More actions (…) > Settings > View advanced settings.  In the list under Search in the address bar with,  choose Add new.  

3.Select the website, then select Add.


There is nothing there for me. that's why I said I can't add/change:





Navigate to the page (ie www.google.co.nz) that you want to use as default search engine, then get back to the setting as per your image above, and it'll appear right under the "Choose one" text.
If someone at MS thought that was simple, they're possibly correct - but if they thought it was "intuitive", then they're from another planet. Nathan did point it out correctly with his step #1 above, but I didn't "get it" either.

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  # 1356014 31-Jul-2015 13:24
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freitasm:
nathan:
freitasm: Also can't add a different search engine to Edge. 


I just changed mine to google.co.nz ->

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge  

1.Go to the search engine's website.  

2.Select More actions (…) > Settings > View advanced settings.  In the list under Search in the address bar with,  choose Add new.  

3.Select the website, then select Add.


There is nothing there for me. that's why I said I can't add/change:





weird, did you do step #1?

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  # 1356019 31-Jul-2015 13:31
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nathan:
freitasm:
nathan:
freitasm: Also can't add a different search engine to Edge. 


I just changed mine to google.co.nz ->

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge  

1.Go to the search engine's website.  

2.Select More actions (…) > Settings > View advanced settings.  In the list under Search in the address bar with,  choose Add new.  

3.Select the website, then select Add.


There is nothing there for me. that's why I said I can't add/change:





weird, did you do step #1?



It doesn't always work for me either, for example, If I go to Google.com and then to Settings/Advanced, Google.com doesn't appear. You just need to be able to type the search engine manually, rather than having to go to a site so it gets picked up by Edge.

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  # 1356024 31-Jul-2015 13:34
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i have a strange problem. I have Wifi as my laptop and phones work but i cant find any evidence on my PC . Theres nothing under Network and internet settings or the Network and sharing centre. Any ideas where its vanished to or how to get it back.




Common sense is not as common as you think.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1356025 31-Jul-2015 13:39
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Are you sure the driver for the wireless device on your PC is loaded and working?




Keep calm, and carry on posting.

 

 

 

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  # 1356027 31-Jul-2015 13:39
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vexxxboy: i have a strange problem. I have Wifi as my laptop and phones work but i cant find any evidence on my PC . Theres nothing under Network and internet settings or the Network and sharing centre. Any ideas where its vanished to or how to get it back.


Is it under Change Adapter settings in Network and Sharing centre?

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  # 1356028 31-Jul-2015 13:41
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semigeek:
nathan:
freitasm:
nathan:
freitasm: Also can't add a different search engine to Edge. 


I just changed mine to google.co.nz ->

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge  

1.Go to the search engine's website.  

2.Select More actions (…) > Settings > View advanced settings.  In the list under Search in the address bar with,  choose Add new.  

3.Select the website, then select Add.


There is nothing there for me. that's why I said I can't add/change:





weird, did you do step #1?



It doesn't always work for me either, for example, If I go to Google.com and then to Settings/Advanced, Google.com doesn't appear. You just need to be able to type the search engine manually, rather than having to go to a site so it gets picked up by Edge.


weird, this is the same way Google Chrome works, too — visit a web page with OpenSearch and it’ll automatically be detected.

can you try google.co.nz instead of .com

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  # 1356030 31-Jul-2015 13:46
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nathan:
semigeek:
nathan:
freitasm:
nathan:
freitasm: Also can't add a different search engine to Edge. 


I just changed mine to google.co.nz ->

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge  

1.Go to the search engine's website.  

2.Select More actions (…) > Settings > View advanced settings.  In the list under Search in the address bar with,  choose Add new.  

3.Select the website, then select Add.


There is nothing there for me. that's why I said I can't add/change:





weird, did you do step #1?



It doesn't always work for me either, for example, If I go to Google.com and then to Settings/Advanced, Google.com doesn't appear. You just need to be able to type the search engine manually, rather than having to go to a site so it gets picked up by Edge.


weird, this is the same way Google Chrome works, too — visit a web page with OpenSearch and it’ll automatically be detected.

can you try google.co.nz instead of .com

 

 

 

Google.co.nz works, weird that Google.com doesn't. But you should still be able to enter it manually in a field.

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  # 1356037 31-Jul-2015 13:56
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semigeek:
nathan:
freitasm:
nathan:
freitasm: Also can't add a different search engine to Edge. 


I just changed mine to google.co.nz ->

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-nz/windows-10/change-the-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge  

1.Go to the search engine's website.  

2.Select More actions (…) > Settings > View advanced settings.  In the list under Search in the address bar with,  choose Add new.  

3.Select the website, then select Add.


There is nothing there for me. that's why I said I can't add/change:





weird, did you do step #1?



It doesn't always work for me either, for example, If I go to Google.com and then to Settings/Advanced, Google.com doesn't appear. You just need to be able to type the search engine manually, rather than having to go to a site so it gets picked up by Edge.


Hmmm....
If I go to http://www.google.com/ncr

then in settings I get:

That was easy....
except that if I Add as default, or simply Add, google.com isn't saved by Edge.

Very weird.

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  # 1356040 31-Jul-2015 13:59
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Tried to upgrade to Windows 10 64 bit on an HP Pavilion dv6 laptop Intel I7 inside. It did the "Copying files" okay and "Installing features and drivers" okay then got to 93% complete on the final third stage where it was doing the final "Configuring settings" which were 75% complete and then it stayed this way for over an hour and a half.

With almost no disk activity I had to power it off. Instead of it retrying the "Configuring settings" again it restored Windows 7 Home Professional OS.

Is this because I selected the default (top option) of keeping my Windows 7 settings? I don't want to choose the option to keep Nothing as I don't want to lose all my directory files with Visual Basic and Delphi Applications etc which should work okay.

Anyone got any ideas?

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  # 1356046 31-Jul-2015 14:03
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Stu: Are you sure the driver for the wireless device on your PC is loaded and working?


thats the problem i cant find any drivers to do with a wireless device or anything to do with WIFI.  





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