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  # 1486645 6-Feb-2016 20:26
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Going to Linux will not solve your user experience.




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Rikkitic:

 


I was just looking at the Microsoft support page where they describe how to prevent upgrading from Win 7. Would this not work, or is it going to change?

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

 

 

 

 

 

 

Am I reading it wrongly, it seems that KB does not apply to Win 7 Home Premium.





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I've upgraded (NOT clean install) 3 desktops, 3 laptops, a tablet, and a compute stick, of ages ranging from 12 years to brand new -- all brilliant except the compute stick, and that's now back on 8.1.  Everything else went perfectly, and I am very very happy with Win 10 -- works great, lost nothing, enjoying using OneDrive, dunno what all the complaints are about...

 

 





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I've upgraded (NOT clean install) 3 desktops, 3 laptops, a tablet, and a compute stick, of ages ranging from 12 years to brand new -- all brilliant except the compute stick, and that's now back on 8.1.  Everything else went perfectly, and I am very very happy with Win 10 -- works great, lost nothing, enjoying using OneDrive, dunno what all the complaints are about...

 

 

 

 

That's nice for you, and maybe for some others, but a lot of people are not having such a fine experience and I am one of them. I can handle my settings being constantly changed, or apps I don't want being reinstalled without asking, or sudden update interruptions evaporating my work, or any number of other minor irritations, but I draw the line at being invaded and pillaged by a rogue operating system that deletes things I want and use without asking or even bothering to inform me. 

 

 





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Did about 10 personal and friends pcs and then my entire work place when it came out. Overall no issues tho one laptop came close to bricking itself (we did manage to fix with a full wipe - turns out it had a virus on it so not Windows 10's fault). Networking in a peer environment can be slow I find and sometimes the pcs just wont find each other. About half are using Classic Shell for a Windows 7 feel. All our programs work (eg Office 2003 is still running fine) and would not see any reason not to upgrade unless you run something that is quirky. Yes it has some oddities as mentioned in this thread but as long as you run over and over windows update before you install most people will have a hassle free upgrade. Having most users on the same platform can only improve things in time.


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  # 1486874 7-Feb-2016 12:15
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Rikkitic:

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I've upgraded (NOT clean install) 3 desktops, 3 laptops, a tablet, and a compute stick, of ages ranging from 12 years to brand new -- all brilliant except the compute stick, and that's now back on 8.1.  Everything else went perfectly, and I am very very happy with Win 10 -- works great, lost nothing, enjoying using OneDrive, dunno what all the complaints are about...


 



That's nice for you, and maybe for some others, but a lot of people are not having such a fine experience and I am one of them. I can handle my settings being constantly changed, or apps I don't want being reinstalled without asking, or sudden update interruptions evaporating my work, or any number of other minor irritations, but I draw the line at being invaded and pillaged by a rogue operating system that deletes things I want and use without asking or even bothering to inform me. 


 



Did you back up data ?
Did you do all necessary compatibility checks and research first?
Why were you not doing updates throughout and why did you postpone updates something MS advises against doing?




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  # 1486927 7-Feb-2016 12:50
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Did you back up data ?
Did you do all necessary compatibility checks and research first?
Why were you not doing updates throughout and why did you postpone updates something MS advises against doing?

 

The upgrade itself went reasonably well, except for a few minor hiccups. I am not complaining about that.

 

Then Windows started updating and rebooting even while I was in the middle of something, causing me to lose work. After this happened for the second time I decided it was ridiculous to be at the mercy of the OS so I changed my settings to the extent I could to stop the auto-updating. This is not something I want to prevent, but I do want to be in control of it, and Windows has taken that away. Even so, I still lost more work when Windows decided to reboot and I noticed that some of my settings kept changing even though I had the updating turned 'off' by using the wi-fi setting.

 

The reason I postpone updates is because if I don't, Windows breaks in to whatever I am doing and I am sick of it. The only option it gives me is to defer updating until the middle of the night, but I do not leave my laptop on when I am not using it so Windows then decides to interrupt whatever I am doing whenever it feels like it. This is a stupid way to design an operating system. It is supposed to exist for the convenience of the user, not the other way around.

 

I just want to add something to clarify my anger: I am a writer and I still do a lot of writing, though no longer for work. Sometimes I may sit for a long time thinking about the phrasing of something. On more than one occasion, Windows has decided at these moments that the computer is not being 'used' and has started a long update just as I was about to type something. This is not something a creative writer, or anyone else, appreciates.

 

 

 

 





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  # 1487043 7-Feb-2016 16:10
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I have never had Windows 10 do that. It will advise when an update is schedule, I will do it then or next convenient time.




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  # 1487045 7-Feb-2016 16:18
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MikeB4: I have never had Windows 10 do that. It will advise when an update is schedule, I will do it then or next convenient time.

 

 

 

I've had it happen more than once on more than one PC. No prior notification in any of those. But I haven't had any since the 1511 update.


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I get a warning... 10 min countdown which can be deferred for up to four hours?

*edit* also, if usin word or any MS program to compose your writing on, just set 'auto save' to a smaller than 10 min interval and use the auto recover feature to regain your 'lost' changes? I set mine to 3 mins and haven't ever lost anything like that since

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  # 1487088 7-Feb-2016 17:06
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That doesnt help when you are doing a 6 hour video export.





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  # 1487099 7-Feb-2016 17:35
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Are you guys using Professional or Home? I am using Pro




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  # 1487109 7-Feb-2016 18:03
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I think I must have Home. I would have to double-check as it's on my laptop.

 

 





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I've 'upgraded' one desktop machine and am holding off on two laptops. The desktop has regular system freezes, the only out is to power cycle the machine. Over a number of updates, this had settled down and I was starting to enjoy using the OS, because it is very responsive when it's working properly, but an automatic update about a month ago has put system freezes front and centre again.

 

The lack of NAS visibility in the systems explorer, which affects the ability of other software to see NAS devices is just bone chillingly dumb. The ability to easily view and navigate to your attached devices should be a fundamental aspect of any modern OS. The even more stupid thing is that, initially, both my NAS' were visible but a so-called update took care of that and it's never been fixed.

 

At one point I went back to Windows 7 Home Premium. System freezes disappeared and I could see both my NAS devices. I decided to give Windows 10 another crack and now just can't be bothered with all the hassle of reverting once again. To a degree I can live with NAS invisibility because there are (what should be totally unnecessary) workarounds. But the system freezes mean I find ways of doing things outside of using Windows 10. These two issues are what drive me to encourage others not to use this OS.


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Three windows ten machines, home desktop, home laptop, work laptop. All work perfectly.


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