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  # 1420721 4-Nov-2015 12:55
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I've got a Office 365 business account and use that for all my documents but all my photos still go into OneDrive personal. I was never worried about that as I had the old 25GB allowance plus the camera bonus but now with that going away my photos and videos alone are 22GB.

Wouldn't be a problem if the camera upload on Windows Phone could use a business account but that doesn't seem to work even with Windows 10 Mobile.

Seems a bit naff to have to buy personal storage just to get the camera upload working when there is business space available.

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  # 1420835 4-Nov-2015 14:39
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The loss of camera roll bonus is going to hurt an already struggling Windows Phone, I am having problems trying to find any positives in this move and it may well be one of the death blows to Windows Phone.




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  # 1420854 4-Nov-2015 14:54
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Won't impact me in the slightest, I am only using 17MB of storage currently.

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  # 1420874 4-Nov-2015 15:17
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MikeB4: The loss of camera roll bonus is going to hurt an already struggling Windows Phone, I am having problems trying to find any positives in this move and it may well be one of the death blows to Windows Phone.


It would really be nice if they kept this bonus but only for Windows Phone users. Surely that wouldn't cost them much with the current numbers and would keep their biggest supporters a little happier.

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  # 1420885 4-Nov-2015 15:28
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nathan:
antoniosk: It would be funny if Apple now decided to up the storage and drop the price on their service, just to be mean...


Hahah. Who's cloud do you think Apple is using? It's not theirs...


Well given MS touts the benefit of outsourcing your infrastructure (IE Cloud), it wouldn't really be fair to criticize them for it though right?


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  # 1420901 4-Nov-2015 15:44
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This decision by Microsoft is insane.

Actually makes me want to avoid the cloud.
Was liking the Microsoft ecosystem and appreciating their efforts to be innovative.



Services should improve over time.
Sure... I can get that they want to change unlimited to a TB or so, but hitting everyone else as well...


Fire the guy who made this call, even if it was the CEO.







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  # 1420906 4-Nov-2015 15:47
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NZCrusader: This decision by Microsoft is insane.

Fire the guy who made this call, even if it was the CEO.



I think you might be getting carried away there.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1420909 4-Nov-2015 15:54
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NZCrusader: This decision by Microsoft is insane.

Actually makes me want to avoid the cloud.




Services should improve over time.





I feel the same. A few  weeks ago I learnt that an  provider I use, which provides a solely cloud service were dramatically changing their offerings, which in some cases could increase the price for some of their customers 400% percent or more. They were moving from a fixed price per month model, to a fee based on the number of transaction you made through their system. So the provider is piggybacking on the success of your business. 
With cloud providers , you basically have no choice but to accept the changes, or move to another provider.  Moving cloud providers though for some things is not easy, especially if you have spent thousands of dollars and time setting it up with a particular provider.

I mainly use dropbox for cloud storage myself, and but only use it for mobile phone storage. Also icloud for the ipad, but their free plan. I have one drive account, but it often had syncing probelms, so nver really used it. Also have a google drive account, but hardly use that. So heaps of different services to share the data around with. 

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  # 1420949 4-Nov-2015 16:26
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MikeB4: I am a 365 subscriber so its a big drop from current 12TB to 1TB and not cool. One terabyte is still a lot but I will be reconsidering my options. Kinda feel the original offer of unlimited was an insincere bait exercise.I wonder what other cuts they have in mind.


This is the tip of the ice berg.

With MS giving away Windows 10 for free and free upgrades right now the question becomes how do they make money. They have killed local exchange with their huge price increases pushing to office 365 online exchange and now are playing with office 365 to get people to pay more.

Office subscriptions instead of disk and life time license - it is all headed in one direction (and i dont mean the band) .  their free mail options getting downsized, their free online disk getting down sized and even the office 365 online storage getting downsized.

The next step is a subscription to windows 10 - otherwise who would ever buy it again if it is upgraded fro free.

Welcome to the cloud, subscription based services - and when there are no more options, welcome to the massive price hikes that follow.

Xero upping prices
Freshbooks upping prices
Quicken upping prices
MS lowering what is provided - unless you pay more .....


It was predicted by many when this whole cloud bollocks got under way and now it is happening.

Boom - bust - leaving a few bigger players with higher prices and monopolies.




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75TB just worked it out for novelty sake. Say 4k Video (compressed) is 350MB/minute of video. 

 

This works out to be 3660 hours of video. Which is 152 days non stop. 

at 1080 its probably more than you can watch in your lifetime. 

So unless its a business or some sort of sham i cant imagine why you would need 75TB at this point in time.

Also remember for each TB I would say Microsoft would have to have about 20% of the storage as parity. Dont Amazon S3 charge between 3c and 2.75c per month per GB. So 75 TB Amazon would charge $2112/mth (USD).

Can clearly see why MS wont be doing unlimited anymore, and I suspect soo many people have about 5~10 TB stored there.

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  # 1421022 4-Nov-2015 17:15
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darylblake: 75TB just worked it out for novelty sake. Say 4k Video (compressed) is 350MB/minute of video.  This works out to be 3660 hours of video. Which is 152 days non stop. 

at 1080 its probably more than you can watch in your lifetime. 

So unless its a business or some sort of sham i cant imagine why you would need 75TB at this point in time.

Also remember for each TB I would say Microsoft would have to have about 20% of the storage as parity. Dont Amazon S3 charge between 3c and 2.75c per month per GB. So 75 TB Amazon would charge $2112/mth (USD).

Can clearly see why MS wont be doing unlimited anymore, and I suspect soo many people have about 5~10 TB stored there.


I think people can understand the high end users being restricted. They over promised and got abused over it but to use that as a reason to restrict the free usage was just dumb.

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  # 1421037 4-Nov-2015 17:36
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Klathman:

I think people can understand the high end users being restricted. They over promised and got abused over it but to use that as a reason to restrict the free usage was just dumb.


I can understand that too, however they must have realised that it would happen, so it shows that either someone made an error in their calculations at MS, or they always planned to do it.

Maybe they aren't using the best spin doctors, or the spin doctors don't really understand the message they are trying to sell? But IMO, there is not justification to reduce the 15GB to 5GB. Infact it should have increased over time, as diskspace is getting cheaper.

Can people imagine Google reducing Gmails mailbox sizes from over 10GB now, down to 1GB, and you have to pay if you want more? This sort of thing from MS shows it can happen.

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  # 1421198 4-Nov-2015 21:19
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no big surprise , but disappointing.
I must say I've had a real guts full of several MS services this year , a guts full of Xamarin and their 5K/year crap service a guts full of Windows 10 and their forced updates and privacy sapping EULAs. I wonder what Azure have lined up, dollar a query sql ? 
perhaps I should go back to my private server and nas and forget about cloud services from big players because for all the promises they make about reliability and lexability they shaft you.
I'm only upset at myself because I'm continually surprised at being treated the same way 

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  # 1421206 4-Nov-2015 21:28
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turnin: no big surprise , but disappointing.
I must say I've had a real guts full of several MS services this year , a guts full of Xamarin and their 5K/year crap service a guts full of Windows 10 and their forced updates and privacy sapping EULAs. I wonder what Azure have lined up, dollar a query sql ? 
perhaps I should go back to my private server and nas and forget about cloud services from big players because for all the promises they make about reliability and lexability they shaft you.
I'm only upset at myself because I'm continually surprised at being treated the same way 


This is why I have stuck to office standalone software, rather than a subscription. Because at some stage changes will happen. It is really the same with any cloud subscription service. Unless they state somewhere that they are locking in prices, assume changes (which are often service restriction/downgrades, or price rises)

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  # 1421228 4-Nov-2015 21:51
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darylblake: 75TB just worked it out for novelty sake. Say 4k Video (compressed) is 350MB/minute of video.  This works out to be 3660 hours of video. Which is 152 days non stop. 

--snip--

Can clearly see why MS wont be doing unlimited anymore, and I suspect soo many people have about 5~10 TB stored there.


They shouldn't have offered it in the first place without a fair use policy, which they could have enacted on those people who are supposedly doing 75TB. 

I bet in practice it has nothing to do with abuse and everything to do with the fact it was the plan all along.


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