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  Reply # 1435409 26-Nov-2015 17:36
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Oh well just wait until they make it a recommended update instead of optional, see how many people install it then!

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/29/making-it-easier-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/

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  Reply # 1435479 26-Nov-2015 19:47
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You're right to stay away from Windows 10 for as long as you can. I've upgraded my desktop which now freezes regularly requiring constant power cycling. Credit where credit's due - compared to 7 (which I upgraded from) it's lightening fast, especially at boot, but there are other problems.

For me the biggest of which is that with the latest batch of force-fed upgrades Microsoft have broken networking. NAS devices can no longer be seen in Explorer, fortunately the shortcuts I had previously set up for them still work. But open Explorer as is and try and navigate to a NAS - simply can't. I also can't save documents directly to any NAS from my scanner via it's own software because of this. It kind of beggars belief that Microsoft can make such a royal screw-up of such a fundamental process but they have.

My laptop's staying on 7.

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networkn:  wouldn't MS be better off listening to it's users instead of arguing with them?


never going to happen :-)

I think this is absolutely correct. I think the noise of individuals (even though there's many of them worldwide) is water off a ducks back. If all those individuals started to coalesce into a group I believe we'd start to see a [different] reaction.

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  Reply # 1435486 26-Nov-2015 19:53
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Dratsab: You're right to stay away from Windows 10 for as long as you can. I've upgraded my desktop which now freezes regularly requiring constant power cycling. Credit where credit's due - compared to 7 (which I upgraded from) it's lightening fast, especially at boot, but there are other problems.

For me the biggest of which is that with the latest batch of force-fed upgrades Microsoft have broken networking. NAS devices can no longer be seen in Explorer, fortunately the shortcuts I had previously set up for them still work. But open Explorer as is and try and navigate to a NAS - simply can't. I also can't save documents directly to any NAS from my scanner via it's own software because of this. It kind of beggars belief that Microsoft can make such a royal screw-up of such a fundamental process but they have.

My laptop's staying on 7.

1101:
networkn:  wouldn't MS be better off listening to it's users instead of arguing with them?


never going to happen :-)

I think this is absolutely correct. I think the noise of individuals (even though there's many of them worldwide) is water off a ducks back. If all those individuals started to coalesce into a group I believe we'd start to see a [different] reaction.

Edit: grammar poor


What kind of group? MS Backtracked on a number of things like the start menu, they were staunchly opposed to, because a LOT of people made their opinions known.

I am also in the boat where on my 4 devices running W10, I have a multitude of issues, my laptop goes to sleep and never wakes up after the latest build, my work desktop BSOD's 2-3 time a week, my start menu doesn't work consistently across all my PC's. 

What Nathan I believe is failing to correctly understand when comparing IOS and Android device OS upgrades, (Which BTW Nathan, I am not forced or "tricked" into doing), is that when I am on a PC, I want to WORK. This means I want things easily accessible, not hidden 3 menu's deep, I want the features I use to work consistently, and above everything else, I want a STABLE solution. 



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  Reply # 1435519 26-Nov-2015 21:02
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Shoes2468: Oh well just wait until they make it a recommended update instead of optional, see how many people install it then!

http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/29/making-it-easier-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/


Wow that article is really dispensing the Kool Aid. Oh well I guess Microsoft does really know best. I feel so much better now after reading this:
Our early data shows customers from France to Brazil to China to the US strongly preferring Windows 10 over Windows 8.1 or Windows 7. Through the usage of these first adopters of Windows 10, and great work by the Windows ecosystem of developers, application compatibility and kinks have been worked out of Windows 10.


We can all sleep safe in the knowledge that Microsoft will be looking after our best interests when it tries to automatically install Windows 10, the best OS ever.

We will soon be publishing Windows 10 as an “Optional Update” in Windows Update for all Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers. Windows Update is the trusted, logical location for our most important updates, and adding Windows 10 here is another way we will make it easy for you to find your upgrade.

Early next year, we expect to be re-categorizing Windows 10 as a “Recommended Update”. Depending upon your Windows Update settings, this may cause the upgrade process to automatically initiate on your device.


If it was so ****ing good why would MS have to go to these lengths to get us to install Windows 10




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  Reply # 1435893 27-Nov-2015 10:56
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It just keeps getting better . They are really making themselves look untrustworthy .

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/24/windows-10-automatic-spying-begins-again/


"...with ‘Threshold 2’ it appeared Microsoft had done a sharp U-turn because the background service at the heart tracking (the ‘Diagnostics Tracking Service’ aka ‘DiagTrack’) appeared to have been removed. Critics celebrated and it was another well deserved pat on the back for Microsoft.
Except it turns out Microsoft had just been very sneaky. What Tweakhound discovered and was subsequently confirmed by BetaNews, is Microsoft simply renamed DiagTrack. It is now called the ‘Connected User Experiences and Telemetry Service’ – which is both a) deliberately vague, and b) misleading (don’t ‘Connected User Experiences’ sound great)."

"Even sneakier is, in being renamed, Microsoft also reset users preferences. Those who dug deep into the Windows 10 registry to disable DiagTrack will find it has been re-enabled now it is called the Connected User Experiences and Telemetry Service. Yes, tracking is back and without any warning and your preferences were irrelevant. "

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