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  Reply # 1522801 30-Mar-2016 14:17
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nathan:
joker97: When i was younger, the customer is always right. Not any longer it seems.


Customer doesn't click install, customer doesn't get Windows 10

 

so you are telling me that the KB for the little icon in the task bar asking you about windows 10 doesn't comes pre ticked in windows update?

 

and after you have reserved your copy of windows 10, but choose not to update at the moment, that the windows 10 download doesn't appear and it too isn't pre ticked?

 

 

 

 

don't click the button to reserve.


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  Reply # 1522806 30-Mar-2016 14:30
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again you miss the point

 

I clicked the reserve button because I didn't want to miss out on the upgrade, and because I was at uni I didn't want to upgrade till I had finished the year as I didn't want anything getting stuffed up. but the updates keep getting FORCED on me.

 

the KB that downloads the icon in your task bar has nothing to do with the reserve button and unless you trawl through and check each and every update and what it is etc it would be downloaded as by default it was checked.

 

I have continually hidden the KB 3035583 but it keep coming back and its always checked.

 

why don't you listen to the customers and pass their concerns on instead of telling them they are wrong.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1522810 30-Mar-2016 14:38
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Jase2985:

 

again you miss the point

 

I clicked the reserve button because I didn't want to miss out on the upgrade, and because I was at uni I didn't want to upgrade till I had finished the year as I didn't want anything getting stuffed up. but the updates keep getting FORCED on me.

 

the KB that downloads the icon in your task bar has nothing to do with the reserve button and unless you trawl through and check each and every update and what it is etc it would be downloaded as by default it was checked.

 

I have continually hidden the KB 3035583 but it keep coming back and its always checked.

 

why don't you listen to the customers and pass their concerns on instead of telling them they are wrong.

 

 

 

 

 set this registry key if you want the Get Windows 10 app in your tasktray to not be there

 

 

 

Subkey: HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx

 

DWORD value: DisableGwx = 1

 

 

 

set this registry key if you want to not be allowed to install Windows 10 thru Windows Update

 

 

 

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate

 

DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

 

 

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351


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  Reply # 1522825 30-Mar-2016 14:44
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Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?


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  Reply # 1522832 30-Mar-2016 14:54
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Jase2985:

 

Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?

 

 

I agree.  Since when does Microsoft advise it users to update registry keys as a standard way to update something?  Wouldn't a 'no thanks' checkbox and a 'don't show me this again' checkbox on the upgrade panel do those registry updates for you?  Seems to me this is Microsoft's way of doing a door to door hard sell.





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  Reply # 1522841 30-Mar-2016 15:22
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kharris:

 

Jase2985:

 

Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?

 

 

I agree.  Since when does Microsoft advise it users to update registry keys as a standard way to update something?  Wouldn't a 'no thanks' checkbox and a 'don't show me this again' checkbox on the upgrade panel do those registry updates for you?  Seems to me this is Microsoft's way of doing a door to door hard sell.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, I hope this is not advice freely given. I can think off hand at least a dozen folks that would send me bonkers if they were told to try it, their machines would be toast in no time and I would have considerable work and grief.

 

There should be a simple yes/no, defer for X time or forget options





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  Reply # 1522842 30-Mar-2016 15:29
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It will likely stop once it stops being free. I get the same thing on my windows 8 PC. I did upgrade, but then downgraded again, and still get the nag box appearing. They should really release a patch to remove it I think. Although they really want everyone on windows 10, as it makes things much more simple for them, just a pity it isn't compatible with some older software and hardware.


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  Reply # 1522851 30-Mar-2016 16:00
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MikeB4:

 

kharris:

 

Jase2985:

 

Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?

 

 

I agree.  Since when does Microsoft advise it users to update registry keys as a standard way to update something?  Wouldn't a 'no thanks' checkbox and a 'don't show me this again' checkbox on the upgrade panel do those registry updates for you?  Seems to me this is Microsoft's way of doing a door to door hard sell.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, I hope this is not advice freely given. I can think off hand at least a dozen folks that would send me bonkers if they were told to try it, their machines would be toast in no time and I would have considerable work and grief.

 

There should be a simple yes/no, defer for X time or forget options

 

 

they can't upgrade if they're not a local admin, and if they are admin it doesn't upgrade unless they opt-in


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  Reply # 1522865 30-Mar-2016 16:06
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YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT, yes you can update it to windows 10 but you need to opt in for that, no one is arguing that.

 

the KB i mentioned above is not an opt in its a checked pre selected update if your not looking for it you will get it when you do an update. yes the register your copy is a user select thing, but you still get that little icon which generally happens before you get to resister your copy. how many people just let windows update install everything that it preselects for you?

 

And you also shouldnt be dictating to people how they should have their user accounts, just because someone has their account as local admin (may have come that way out of the box) or they may not even have a login set still doesnt make it ok does it?

 

 


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  Reply # 1522866 30-Mar-2016 16:09
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nathan:

 

MikeB4:

 

kharris:

 

Jase2985:

 

Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?

 

 

I agree.  Since when does Microsoft advise it users to update registry keys as a standard way to update something?  Wouldn't a 'no thanks' checkbox and a 'don't show me this again' checkbox on the upgrade panel do those registry updates for you?  Seems to me this is Microsoft's way of doing a door to door hard sell.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, I hope this is not advice freely given. I can think off hand at least a dozen folks that would send me bonkers if they were told to try it, their machines would be toast in no time and I would have considerable work and grief.

 

There should be a simple yes/no, defer for X time or forget options

 

 

they can't upgrade if they're not a local admin, and if they are admin it doesn't upgrade unless they opt-in

 

 

Although this is true I think you are missing the point... there should be an easy way to opt out if you want to... there isn't.  A registry update is not regular consumer safe.





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  Reply # 1522891 30-Mar-2016 17:25
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kharris:

 

 

 

Although this is true I think you are missing the point... there should be an easy way to opt out if you want to... there isn't.  A registry update is not regular consumer safe.

 

 

 

 

Maybe microsoft should produce an exe,  that makes the registry change  automatically. 


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  Reply # 1523049 31-Mar-2016 02:21
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Jase2985:

 

YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT, yes you can update it to windows 10 but you need to opt in for that, no one is arguing that.

 

the KB i mentioned above is not an opt in its a checked pre selected update if your not looking for it you will get it when you do an update. yes the register your copy is a user select thing, but you still get that little icon which generally happens before you get to resister your copy. how many people just let windows update install everything that it preselects for you?

 

And you also shouldnt be dictating to people how they should have their user accounts, just because someone has their account as local admin (may have come that way out of the box) or they may not even have a login set still doesnt make it ok does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

KB3035583 installs the Get Windows 10 app, yes this does install by default on Windows 7/8 PCs that are pointed at Windows Update.

 

This update gives people the option to install Windows 10 if they want.

 

It is still opt-in, the user needs to choose to install it, nothing happens by default.

 

They also need to be a local admin to install.


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  Reply # 1523050 31-Mar-2016 02:26
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kharris:

 

nathan:

 

MikeB4:

 

kharris:

 

Jase2985:

 

Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?

 

 

I agree.  Since when does Microsoft advise it users to update registry keys as a standard way to update something?  Wouldn't a 'no thanks' checkbox and a 'don't show me this again' checkbox on the upgrade panel do those registry updates for you?  Seems to me this is Microsoft's way of doing a door to door hard sell.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, I hope this is not advice freely given. I can think off hand at least a dozen folks that would send me bonkers if they were told to try it, their machines would be toast in no time and I would have considerable work and grief.

 

There should be a simple yes/no, defer for X time or forget options

 

 

they can't upgrade if they're not a local admin, and if they are admin it doesn't upgrade unless they opt-in

 

 

Although this is true I think you are missing the point... there should be an easy way to opt out if you want to... there isn't.  A registry update is not regular consumer safe.

 

 

The user has opted-in to installing Windows 10.

 

the only thing that installs by default on Windows 7/8 PCs connected to WU is the Get Windows 10 app.

 

Which provides the option to opt-in to the Windows 10 install.

 

After that the user still needs to agree to the End User Licensing Agreement, they can not agree to that and Windows won't install.

 

If they agree to the EULA, then still don't want Windows 10, they have 31 days to roll back to their previous OS.


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  Reply # 1523055 31-Mar-2016 05:29
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nathan:

 

Jase2985:

 

YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT, yes you can update it to windows 10 but you need to opt in for that, no one is arguing that.

 

the KB i mentioned above is not an opt in its a checked pre selected update if your not looking for it you will get it when you do an update. yes the register your copy is a user select thing, but you still get that little icon which generally happens before you get to resister your copy. how many people just let windows update install everything that it preselects for you?

 

And you also shouldnt be dictating to people how they should have their user accounts, just because someone has their account as local admin (may have come that way out of the box) or they may not even have a login set still doesnt make it ok does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

KB3035583 installs the Get Windows 10 app, yes this does install by default on Windows 7/8 PCs that are pointed at Windows Update.

 

This update gives people the option to install Windows 10 if they want.

 

It is still opt-in, the user needs to choose to install it, nothing happens by default.

 

They also need to be a local admin to install.

 

 

Thats fine not questioning that

 

Im questioning why that particular update is forced on you, as you are left with a stupid little icon on your task bar that comes with popups all the time, which for the normal person is next to impossible to remove.

 

Currently because i have reserved windows 10, but i have removed KB3035583 so i dont get the annoying popups, when i do a windows update the windows 10 download is selected by default and all other updates are deselected.

 

I did actually unreserve it on one computer and im still getting the windows 10 download so go figure

 

What would have happened if i had have had auto updates on?


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  Reply # 1523065 31-Mar-2016 07:23
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Jase2985:

 

nathan:

 

Jase2985:

 

YOU KEEP MISSING THE POINT, yes you can update it to windows 10 but you need to opt in for that, no one is arguing that.

 

the KB i mentioned above is not an opt in its a checked pre selected update if your not looking for it you will get it when you do an update. yes the register your copy is a user select thing, but you still get that little icon which generally happens before you get to resister your copy. how many people just let windows update install everything that it preselects for you?

 

And you also shouldnt be dictating to people how they should have their user accounts, just because someone has their account as local admin (may have come that way out of the box) or they may not even have a login set still doesnt make it ok does it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

KB3035583 installs the Get Windows 10 app, yes this does install by default on Windows 7/8 PCs that are pointed at Windows Update.

 

This update gives people the option to install Windows 10 if they want.

 

It is still opt-in, the user needs to choose to install it, nothing happens by default.

 

They also need to be a local admin to install.

 

 

Thats fine not questioning that

 

Im questioning why that particular update is forced on you, as you are left with a stupid little icon on your task bar that comes with popups all the time, which for the normal person is next to impossible to remove.

 

Currently because i have reserved windows 10, but i have removed KB3035583 so i dont get the annoying popups, when i do a windows update the windows 10 download is selected by default and all other updates are deselected.

 

I did actually unreserve it on one computer and im still getting the windows 10 download so go figure

 

What would have happened if i had have had auto updates on?

 

 

the update lets Windows customers at home know there is a newer version of Windows available, and its free.  End consumers expect OS updates, iOS, Android, ChromeOS etc all let their customers know there is a new OS version available.

 

If you have auto updates turned on, nothing will happen, Windows 10 won't install.  It was going to install in your case because you chose to opt-in to receive the upgrade.


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