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  Reply # 1523069 31-Mar-2016 07:33
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no I choose to reserve my copy, that's all I have done, I didn't choose to receive the upgrade or have it come up as the default when I do a windows update.

 

you do realise you can let customers know that windows 10 is available with out having the update selected by default right?


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  Reply # 1523072 31-Mar-2016 07:40
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Jase2985:

 

no I choose to reserve my copy, that's all I have done, I didn't choose to receive the upgrade or have it come up as the default when I do a windows update.

 

you do realise you can let customers know that windows 10 is available with out having the update selected by default right?

 

 

 

 

If you don’t want to upgrade at this time, select the link to either change the upgrade schedule or cancel the scheduled upgrade.

 

 

 

Windows 10 upgrade scheduling
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3095675


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  Reply # 1523092 31-Mar-2016 08:48
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again I shouldn't have to, I haven't asked for the update, its being forced on me now. there is nothing in the windows update telling me how to get rid of it.

 

you completely miss the point, for something that should be easy MS have made it incredibly difficult.


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surely doing what Nathan is suggesting will take less time that it does to type a reply to here. I would just do it, log a feedback report and move on





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  Reply # 1523102 31-Mar-2016 09:21
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MikeB4:

 

surely doing what Nathan is suggesting will take less time that it does to type a reply to here. I would just do it, log a feedback report and move on

 

 

yea it does and would

 

but what about everyone else who has this problem but doesn't visit geekzone? I would save there are hundreds of thousands of people In this position


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  Reply # 1523109 31-Mar-2016 09:29
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Jase2985:

 

MikeB4:

 

surely doing what Nathan is suggesting will take less time that it does to type a reply to here. I would just do it, log a feedback report and move on

 

 

yea it does and would

 

but what about everyone else who has this problem but doesn't visit geekzone? I would save there are hundreds of thousands of people In this position

 

 

 

 

Absolutely agree, maybe using the Feedback tool is the only way to get this issue listened to and acted upon, there is an update due in a few months hopefully something will change before then.





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MikeB4:

 

surely doing what Nathan is suggesting will take less time that it does to type a reply to here. I would just do it, log a feedback report and move on

 

 

I agree Mike, but how hard would it be for them to put in an opt-out, then you never get bothered again.  They have obviously made a concious decision not to do that because they want people to upgrade, which is kind of a hard sell approach.  It is that I object to.





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  Reply # 1523112 31-Mar-2016 09:36
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nathan:

 

kharris:

 

nathan:

 

MikeB4:

 

kharris:

 

Jase2985:

 

Again I shouldn't have to be going into the registry at all to fix something that MS should have given people the option of choosing in the first place.

 

what about all those who are technologically challenged?

 

 

I agree.  Since when does Microsoft advise it users to update registry keys as a standard way to update something?  Wouldn't a 'no thanks' checkbox and a 'don't show me this again' checkbox on the upgrade panel do those registry updates for you?  Seems to me this is Microsoft's way of doing a door to door hard sell.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, I hope this is not advice freely given. I can think off hand at least a dozen folks that would send me bonkers if they were told to try it, their machines would be toast in no time and I would have considerable work and grief.

 

There should be a simple yes/no, defer for X time or forget options

 

 

they can't upgrade if they're not a local admin, and if they are admin it doesn't upgrade unless they opt-in

 

 

Although this is true I think you are missing the point... there should be an easy way to opt out if you want to... there isn't.  A registry update is not regular consumer safe.

 

 

The user has opted-in to installing Windows 10.

 

the only thing that installs by default on Windows 7/8 PCs connected to WU is the Get Windows 10 app.

 

Which provides the option to opt-in to the Windows 10 install.

 

After that the user still needs to agree to the End User Licensing Agreement, they can not agree to that and Windows won't install.

 

If they agree to the EULA, then still don't want Windows 10, they have 31 days to roll back to their previous OS.

 

 

.... and like I said you are missing the point.  I don't want to opt-in.  I want to opt-out and never be bothered by the upgrade process again... but I can't.  That is annoying, because Microsoft could have built in an opt out function but clearly made and concious decision not to.





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  Reply # 1523158 31-Mar-2016 10:12
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.... and like I said you are missing the point.  I don't want to opt-in.  I want to opt-out and never be bothered by the upgrade process again... but I can't.  That is annoying, because Microsoft could have built in an opt out function but clearly made and concious decision not to.

 

 

if you don't want to opt-in to receiving the Windows 10 upgrade don't schedule or reserve the upgrade.

 

If you want to block the ability of a local admin being able to install the upgrade set this key

 

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate

 

DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

 

 

 

If you want to block the Get Windows 10 app notifications then set this key:

 

 

 

Subkey: HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx

 

DWORD value: DisableGwx = 1

 

 

 

Standard users cannot upgrade their PCs to Windows 10


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  Reply # 1523159 31-Mar-2016 10:13
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kharris:

 

MikeB4:

 

surely doing what Nathan is suggesting will take less time that it does to type a reply to here. I would just do it, log a feedback report and move on

 

 

I agree Mike, but how hard would it be for them to put in an opt-out, then you never get bothered again.  They have obviously made a concious decision not to do that because they want people to upgrade, which is kind of a hard sell approach.  It is that I object to.

 

 

 

 

I think MSFT think they have included an "opt in" option with the reserve option, however they need to include an opt in or opt out when its time for your upgrade. I know its a second tier command but it's one they need to

 

look at for customer service. Registry hacks are not customer service, they are IT options for suitably skilled persons.





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  Reply # 1523188 31-Mar-2016 10:33
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nathan:

 

kharris:

 

.... and like I said you are missing the point.  I don't want to opt-in.  I want to opt-out and never be bothered by the upgrade process again... but I can't.  That is annoying, because Microsoft could have built in an opt out function but clearly made and concious decision not to.

 

 

if you don't want to opt-in to receiving the Windows 10 upgrade don't schedule or reserve the upgrade.

 

If you want to block the ability of a local admin being able to install the upgrade set this key

 

Subkey: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate

 

DWORD value: DisableOSUpgrade = 1

 

 

 

If you want to block the Get Windows 10 app notifications then set this key:

 

 

 

Subkey: HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx

 

DWORD value: DisableGwx = 1

 

 

 

Standard users cannot upgrade their PCs to Windows 10

 

 

....and once again you miss the point entirely.

 

I give up.





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  Reply # 1523570 31-Mar-2016 21:31
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 MS purposely made it almost impossible to stop the update..

 

Only easy way to stop it is with this (on not enterprise versions)

 

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/


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  Reply # 1523658 1-Apr-2016 03:59
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AHitman:

 

 MS purposely made it almost impossible to stop the update..

 

Only easy way to stop it is with this (on not enterprise versions)

 

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

 

 

 

 

you don't need to worry about Enterprise versions as they do not qualify for the free upgrade to Windows 10


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Interesting I tried finding HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate but I don't have this folder in my registry (Windows 7).

 

I'm going to stick to Windows 7 as long as I possibly can, tried Windows 8 and 10 on work machines and hate both with a passion.





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