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  #1452646 17-Dec-2015 21:05
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tardtasticx:
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michaelmurfy: ChromeOS - Update? Reboot, done.
MacOSX - Nag, Nag, Nag, Reboot, Nag Nag Nag, Reboot, Nag - fine, I'll update already! Wait like 30mins, done.
Windows - Nag, Nag, Your PC is now rebooting, done.
Linux - Hrm, you've got an update - run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", reboot, done.

Each OS has their own way of dealing with it. With Windows I just leave my PC on so it reboots itself when I am not using it. Would you rather have your OS vulnerable to *insert latest zero-day exploit here* or just spend a moment ensuring things are up-to-date? Also if you have not got a SSD installed I'd strongly recommend it.


Your experience of MacOSX and Windows updates couldn't be more different than mine.  It is almost as if you have them the wrong way round!


Really? I found it almost spot on. Except Windows was more like "OH YOU BLINKED, REBOOT TIME!"


Spot on. I don't know - my OSX system needs to be redone, it is 10.8.* to 10.9.* BETA to 10.10.* BETA and now running some kind of a stable build - I'd say my OSX installation is a little messed up.




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  #1452651 17-Dec-2015 21:16
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scuwp: Windows - total silence, oh I see your using your computer for something important, time to suddenly run an update that we didn't bother to tell you about then!

Not grizzling about having to update.  More than happy to update at a time convenient to me (or at the odd time in the morning that automatic updates are normally set to run at).  I wasn't aware this update was there (no notification) nor did I get the opportunity to to postpone the update or acknowledge to run it at the set time of 3:30am.  

78%...getting there.    






use gpedit.msc and turn off auto update and force it to let you tell it when to update ..... Problem solved 

start/run/gpedit.msc

select Computer Configuration
select Windows Settings
select Administrator Templates
select Windows Components 
select Windows Update

In the right hand panel 

select Configure Automatic Updates
chose enable 
and from the drop down box click number 3 Download and notify 

click apply and ok 


 
 
 
 


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  #1452653 17-Dec-2015 21:19
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Athlonite:
scuwp: Windows - total silence, oh I see your using your computer for something important, time to suddenly run an update that we didn't bother to tell you about then!

Not grizzling about having to update.  More than happy to update at a time convenient to me (or at the odd time in the morning that automatic updates are normally set to run at).  I wasn't aware this update was there (no notification) nor did I get the opportunity to to postpone the update or acknowledge to run it at the set time of 3:30am.  

78%...getting there.    






use gpedit.msc and turn off auto update and force it to let you tell it when to update ..... Problem solved 

start/run/gpedit.msc

select Computer Configuration
select Windows Settings
select Administrator Templates
select Windows Components 
select Windows Update

In the right hand panel 

select Configure Automatic Updates
chose enable 
and from the drop down box click number 3 Download and notify 

click apply and ok 



I wonder how many MS users could work that out for themselves? Surely the old system that had an icon that let you pick 3 well described and easy to understand options is better? 



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  #1452719 17-Dec-2015 22:29
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Athlonite:
scuwp: Windows - total silence, oh I see your using your computer for something important, time to suddenly run an update that we didn't bother to tell you about then!

Not grizzling about having to update.  More than happy to update at a time convenient to me (or at the odd time in the morning that automatic updates are normally set to run at).  I wasn't aware this update was there (no notification) nor did I get the opportunity to to postpone the update or acknowledge to run it at the set time of 3:30am.  

78%...getting there.    






use gpedit.msc and turn off auto update and force it to let you tell it when to update ..... Problem solved 

start/run/gpedit.msc

select Computer Configuration
select Windows Settings
select Administrator Templates
select Windows Components 
select Windows Update

In the right hand panel 

select Configure Automatic Updates
chose enable 
and from the drop down box click number 3 Download and notify 

click apply and ok 



Thanks. That looks exactly what I need. Why they couldn't put something simple like that in the GUI lord only knows.




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  #1452738 17-Dec-2015 23:31
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michaelmurfy: Linux - Hrm, you've got an update - run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", reboot, done.


I've never had to reboot on a Linux update.

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  #1452754 18-Dec-2015 01:43
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UHD:
michaelmurfy: Linux - Hrm, you've got an update - run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade", reboot, done.


I've never had to reboot on a Linux update.


unless it's a kernel update (at least in openSUSE that's the only time a reboot is ever suggested)
or a full DE version update - then logging out and back in is suggested.

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  #1452840 18-Dec-2015 09:04
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Actually I find the most annoying part of updates is when I shut down a laptop and it says do not turn off until complete. This is usually when I'm on the road and don't have the charger with me!

 
 
 
 


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  #1452853 18-Dec-2015 09:59
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Doing what ever or updating what ever should always be in the control of the owner period.

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  #1452858 18-Dec-2015 10:07
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push start button/windows key

Windows Update Settings

Advanced Options
Choose how updates are installed:
Automatic (recommended)
Notify to Schedule Restart

You can also choose to defer upgrades (excluding security updates).

So it is there, in the GUI.

The default MUST be aggressive, as the majority of the user population don't care at all and will happily run a system with no patches, ever, then complain when an exploit causes an issue.

Your situation sucks, totally agree. Changing the above setting should assist.

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  #1452878 18-Dec-2015 10:48
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You can also choose to defer upgrades (excluding security updates).



Not in Win10 home (unless this has now changed)
Also , no option to use gpedit.msc to change update policy  in win10 home
http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what-does-%E2%80%9Cdefer-upgrades%E2%80%9D-in-windows-10-mean/
"Windows 10 Home — the standard version of Windows 10 you’ll get on most new PCs — does not have this option"

So Win Home laptop, in a hurry, turns off laptop because the simply cant wait & have to get out the door.
I have seen Windows trashed from turning off part way through a Winupdate. It happens (not often admittedly)

Usually, Id recommend waiting a week or so before installing Winupdates, so any bugs/issues can be sorted & bad updates would be
removed from updates by MS.
There have been major issues with some Winupdates lately, causing real issues & in some instances(Some allin1's) PC's that no longer load Win


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  #1452988 18-Dec-2015 13:32
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1101:


You can also choose to defer upgrades (excluding security updates).



Not in Win10 home (unless this has now changed)
Also , no option to use gpedit.msc to change update policy  in win10 home
http://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what-does-%E2%80%9Cdefer-upgrades%E2%80%9D-in-windows-10-mean/
"Windows 10 Home — the standard version of Windows 10 you’ll get on most new PCs — does not have this option"

So Win Home laptop, in a hurry, turns off laptop because the simply cant wait & have to get out the door.
I have seen Windows trashed from turning off part way through a Winupdate. It happens (not often admittedly)

Usually, Id recommend waiting a week or so before installing Winupdates, so any bugs/issues can be sorted & bad updates would be
removed from updates by MS.
There have been major issues with some Winupdates lately, causing real issues & in some instances(Some allin1's) PC's that no longer load Win



So you're saying there is no gpedit.msc in Windows 10 home or it just wont run it (you may need to be logged in as Administrator) 

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  #1453236 18-Dec-2015 21:06
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Windows 10 users might want to take a look at this.

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  #1453388 19-Dec-2015 09:43
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I got caught out by this update as well which resulted in both significant downtime while away at a site for work, and then close to 2 hours trying to get Ethernet working again (and stable) because the update killed Ethernet entirely.

Solution was ultimately to uninstall Hyper-V because the virtual Ethernet driver it installs which becomes the main NIC was disabled and it wasn't possible to reenable it.


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  #1453485 19-Dec-2015 13:44
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Rmani: Windows 10 users might want to take a look at this.


All that can be accomplished in 1 free program from O&O and it's called O&O Shut up 10 and its available from here> http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

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  #1453508 19-Dec-2015 14:26
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MikeB4: Doing what ever or updating what ever should always be in the control of the owner period.


Dead right...

I have a slightly different problem to the others here, and having windows decide could actually be dangerous...

I tend to put my laptop into sleep mode when not using it, windows update has been waking it up in the middle of the night to update it.

A couple of times it has done this while it has been in the bag... it gets pretty hot !!  which can't be good for it...

I've taken to leaving it out of the bag until heading for work.

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