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Topic # 198210 30-Jun-2016 14:16
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I expected to keep my Win 7 laptop as a second machine just to run XP when needed. But it seems Hyper-V provides the equivalent functionality. I had to return my original laptop - hyper-v tripped it up - long story. But the new one's looking good - I put Hyper-V on it early to check it out.

But there's one gutting problem which makes it almost useless. I had kept my XP licence details from bygone days for just such an eventuality. But most XP licences (if not bought as an full disk) were OEM - and OEM is only able to run on the original machine. Not something I was aware of.

So now I have XP under Hyper-V counting down until it expires. I could install this once a month - or as needed - but it's easier to keep the separate laptop (and cross my fingers). XP licences are no longer sold - sad since they've provided a tool to run it.

I thought I'd ask what other people do - although I realise most of the people here probably have full licences from old installs.

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  Reply # 1583374 30-Jun-2016 14:20
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Ahh, but other than the licensing, it works?  I have a reason to get XP running off a Windows 2012 Hyper V Server for some testing.

 

 





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  Reply # 1583383 30-Jun-2016 14:34
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haven't thoroughly checked it yet - need to figure out how to get files from the real system to the virtual one - not quite as obvious as the simple system Windows 7 gave us non-geeks. But if it's going to die every month it's not really much use - losing where we were lst at and hanving to reconfigure everythings is more trouble than it's worth.

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  Reply # 1583390 30-Jun-2016 14:57
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Have you tried an activation call? Chances of success are slim but why not.



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Reply # 1583393 30-Jun-2016 15:01
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Seeing the responses of users who tried I'd say slim is an exaggeration! ;-) So no I haven't tried.

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  Reply # 1583418 30-Jun-2016 15:26
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If you are still on 7 does xp mode do the job?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-nz/download/details.aspx?id=8002

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  Reply # 1583425 30-Jun-2016 15:46
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I'd have thought most people still NEEDING to use XP have access to MSDN or SA licenses.





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  Reply # 1583427 30-Jun-2016 15:52
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Have you tried the phone activation?  Be surprised if it didn't work tbh.




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  Reply # 1583431 30-Jun-2016 15:59
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I have no idea what those are - the biggest MS user I ever got to was running an office of 8-10 on terminal server under windows 2k. I've always avoid MS - but when a stroke amnd other health issues slowed me down a decade ago I switched to Windows as my main system - could no longer maintain OS/2 (I had to use Windows for work anyway because my practice software demands it. Now there's just two of us to consider - more flexibility - but way less money.

The only reason I need XP is to run 123 - I've converted most to OpenOffice - but still got to go though older files and see what's worth preserving etc. There are a couple of other older apps which are still quite good - but not essential. However there kis a new one I'll see if XP helps - Win 10 means I can't run Civilisation ;-(



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  Reply # 1583435 30-Jun-2016 16:10
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GZT - I've been using XP under Windows 7 - that's great. The problem is as the machines get old I replace them and thought Win 10 and Hyper-V would be the same - but it's not. Under Windows 7 we didn't require old codes for XP - I assumed the same would apply here. I should know by now what assume does.

This did give me the idea of checking XP under Windows 7 to see what it used - it also uses an OEM code.



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  Reply # 1583436 30-Jun-2016 16:14
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undergeeknz - well I guess I might try a call - won't cost too much - maybe 1/2 an hour and lots of frustration (skince my stroke I leave calling IRD to my wife - lucky lady. It's just too much for me - so I confess to not having hight hopes. But we'll see.

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  Reply # 1583453 30-Jun-2016 16:32
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I'm guessing have the original XP OEM media and it is not locked to install to a particular machine so I would expect an activation eventually.

If that fails next best thing is making one of the machines Window 7 Pro with XP mode. Win7Pro will set you back about $250.

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  Reply # 1583456 30-Jun-2016 16:37
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PhilANZ: undergeeknz - well I guess I might try a call - won't cost too much - maybe 1/2 an hour and lots of frustration (skince my stroke I leave calling IRD to my wife - lucky lady. It's just too much for me - so I confess to not having hight hopes. But we'll see.

 

Nah it's automated, you don't have to talk to a person.  Just key in some numbers on the phone, and then key the numbers it reads back to you into the PC.  Takes about 10 minutes.  Try going through the activation on the PC and when it fails it becomes an option to do it over the phone.




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  Reply # 1588025 8-Jul-2016 10:53
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Been a bit busy - life would be simpler without clients ;-(. So now I have used the phone activation service - but for Office. Ended up having to talk to a real person - but it got sorted. I will try the phone activation for XP after I get Hyper-V sorted.
Skype now seems to shut down and after a few minutes restart for no reason. Thought it might be automatically updating - but that's turned off in Skype. Also found Xero behaves poorly in second and subsequent tabs - even though doing the same thing on the Windows 7 machine is fine. The Firefox configuration is copied to the W10 machine so only W10 / W7 should be different. So these are my two most noticeable issues.
But that brings me to my main question. Once I have a virtual machine, I need to copy data files from W10 to XP and then back again. If I just want to copy the odd file I can do that - but it involves stopping and starting HyperV - not really practical for every day use - I might be doing multiple files (from different locations) a day on some days.
I've tried to follow various instructions to allow me to share files between the two - but both my wife and I have conceded defeat. The fact there are articles telling us how to do this suggests it is possible. But we always find ourselves missing something. Sometimes it's obvious that the instructions are not written for mere mortals. Whatever the case I'm hoping that someone here might point me to the right place. Then when I have this sorted (and hopefully Xero) I can resume normal life :-).

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  Reply # 1588063 8-Jul-2016 11:28
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Try virtualbox (free) or VMWare (Paid)


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