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# 20364 23-Mar-2008 13:59
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wow I just created the topic (before this), but yet it is not showing in the forum... strange. I hope it doesnt double up.

Anyway my problem occurs on 3 computers running XP and Vista, and I have heard others complain of same thing.
As I have already written this out once before, I will just summerise.

When I put SD card into computer it reads it, then i click safely remove hardware, and then the next time i put card in it will not read it. only way to get it to work is to reboot computer. I use left click on safely remove hardware icon, then select device, then ok message, and i remove it. put it back in an hour/day/week later and nothing at all happens until rebooted.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known issue with XP/Vista?

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# 118224 23-Mar-2008 14:08
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Most card readers are USB devices. When you "remove" you are not actually removing the card itself, but the reader - which is then unavailable until the next reboot/power cycle.






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  # 118229 23-Mar-2008 14:17
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So how does one safely remove the SD card? I tried pulling it out while computer was idle and not reading the card, and it zapped it, and I needed to do a repair drive thing on it. So its now working again, but don't want to repeat that, or be rebooting my computer multiple times a day.

Am I supposed to go to my computer, and right click on the SD card and remove it that way, or is what I was doing the only way?

 
 
 
 


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  # 118237 23-Mar-2008 14:48
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You can configure the drive to be safer than faster... This will guarantee it won't corrupt if removed quickly. Look for the Quick Removal option in Device Manager | Disk Drives and uncheck that for those.




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  # 118260 23-Mar-2008 19:28
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freitasm: Look for the Quick Removal option in Device Manager | Disk Drives and uncheck that for those.


where is this "quick removal" option found? i'm using vista ultimate and i can't seem to find it. do you have to have the specific usb drive plugged in when looking for the option? cheers

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  # 118263 23-Mar-2008 19:45
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i dont know about vista but on my pc at home (XP) and my work pc (2000) i jsut go to my computer, right click the drive with the card in it and click "eject" nothing really happens except you may see the activity light on your usb card reader flash a lil and then i remove it without any problems..

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  # 118268 23-Mar-2008 20:19
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For my drives (in XP, hope it's similar in Vista):

My Computer > DRIVE > [right-click] > Properties > Hardware > [Select drive] > Properties > Policies

There are two options:
  • Optimize for quick removal
    This setting disables write caching on the disk and in Windows, so you can disconnect this device without using the Safe Removal icon.
  • Optimize for performance
    This setting enables write caching in Windows to improve disk performance. To disconnect this device from the computer, click the Safely Remove Hardware icon in the taskbar notification area.




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  # 118327 24-Mar-2008 09:43
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manhinli: For my drives (in XP, hope it's similar in Vista):

My Computer > DRIVE > [right-click] > Properties > Hardware > [Select drive] > Properties > Policies

There are two options:
  • Optimize for quick removal
    This setting disables write caching on the disk and in Windows, so you can disconnect this device without using the Safe Removal icon.
  • Optimize for performance
    This setting enables write caching in Windows to improve disk performance. To disconnect this device from the computer, click the Safely Remove Hardware icon in the taskbar notification area.


YOU LEGEND!!! Thats exactly where it is under Vista, and thats exactly what I want. You have saved me so much time and messing around, THANKS! ....... but.....

Its all dimmed out, I cant select either option, how do I "undim" it so I can choose the other option? I have struck this sort of thing before while trying to change things and it took me ages to work out where to go to allow the changes. Thanks!

 
 
 
 


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  # 118328 24-Mar-2008 09:46
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Have you tried it with a card inserted?




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  # 118330 24-Mar-2008 09:52
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Ok, what I've just found is when in the SD memory card properties box, when I look at the Policies tab, "optimize for performance" is selected, and its all dimmed out. When I go to general tab there is a "change settings" button. If I click it, then go back to the policies tab, now by magic the "optimise for quick removal" is selected, so I click ok, but then when I go back into the properties and check it again, its back to "optimise for performance".

How do I change it, as it seems to just change itself back after I change it?



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  # 118333 24-Mar-2008 10:01
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freitasm: Have you tried the "Eject" option mentioned earlier?


There is no "eject" option on my SD card, only "safely remove". By comparison, if I do same to my CD drive it has an "eject" option.

Anyway, I just selected right click on SD, then "safely remove" (seen eject was not an option), and after I removed it, I waited 30 seconds and put it back in, and nothing...

So I will now reboot my computer and try to figure how to change those policy settings.

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  # 118336 24-Mar-2008 10:24
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This may dampen hopes...




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  # 118352 24-Mar-2008 11:29
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Hmmm that is sad. Sort of sounds like whats happening in Vista?

Its actually the Vista computer that is the one that I really need to get this to work.

And in answer to your previous question, yes the SD card was in. It lets me change the setting, but once I click ok, it changes it back to the way it was.

As a temporary solution, I tried to put computer into sleep, then remove SD after it was in sleep, then startup windows again, and even that caused some damage to the card, and again I had to run the error checking thing to fix it again. I'm sure that its going to destroy my card if a solution is not found soon, as robooting my computer is a very time consuming thing to do, plus I "lose" all my open work, and I'd estimate from clicking restart to getting back into windows, back on net, with all programs open and back the way they were takes 10 minutes, and if I do this once an hour you can probably understand my frustration...

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  # 118353 24-Mar-2008 11:36
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Look at these two:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/937651
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933847

Even Mauricio talked about it... (though it's about ReadyBoost, it's not that far off I hope.)




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  # 118360 24-Mar-2008 12:13
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Damn. I am still confused about why this issue has been known for years but there is no solution to it?

I downloaded and tried to install that SD card thing, but it said something like this update is not necessary for your system. I do have Vista basic SP1.

And just to clarify I am talking about an internal card reader, and when I put card in it works, when I take it out it, then put it back in, it makes a three low tones noise, and no error message. Just wont appear. If I pull it out it does the normal bing bong noise, and put it back in three low tones noise.


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