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  #2038811 16-Jun-2018 19:51
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This is beyond annoying. Windows was working fine after the last rollback.

 

But Windows just did another update when I shut down last night - I couldn't prevent it.

 

No all of my file associations are gone. All of them. Click on a file and it no longer opens. Music and videos don't play. I now have to go back and try and restore every single one manually.

 

Do these idiots not even test what they are pushing out.

 

 


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  #2039103 17-Jun-2018 13:29
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I have two computers running Win 10 (both 32 bit versions). After the first computer updated to 1803, I began getting this very strange bug that caused random corruption of images. I scanned some slides, and when I went to crop them, they got corrupted without even being saved to disk.

 

Because I am  "new around here" I cannot post Dropbox links to samples so that you can see what I am talking about, but I will upload just one image to give an idea.

 

 

Now originally, I thought this was a problem with Adobe Photoshop, but it is also happening in ACDSee, Lightroom and IrfanView.

Here are a couple of other things I have noticed

1. I open an image and it is corrupted immediately. I close it without saving, and open it again, and its OK.

2. I open an image on Photoshop, and it looks fine. I use CTRL+ to zoom in and it corrupts right there on the screen. I zoom out using CTRL- and the corruption disappears. I zoom in again, and sometimes the exact same corruption appears, sometimes is a different looking corruption and sometimes there is no apparent corruption at all. Whatever corruption is there, if I save the image at that point, the corruption is saved and I cannot get the uncorrupted image back.

 

3. It only happens with JPG files. If I convert the images to TIF files, then provided they were not already corrupted, I can do anything thing I like to them and they remain OK. However, when I turn them back into JPGs (for printing) they are sometimes corrupted in the conversion process.

 

I have three physical HDDs on the computer, and it happens when loading from all of them, or from a USB Stick. It even happens with images loaded across the network from a different computer. The fact that these corruptions happen even when no HDD is involved led me to believe I might have a faulty stick of RAM, but I tested it all using memtest and no problems. I don't believe this is likely to be an on board graphics memory problem because its my understanding that this kind of problem would not be saved to the image, the graphics only drives the display (am I right?).

FYI, my system is has an ASUS B150M-A micro-ATX (mATX) motherboard with Intel B150 chipset, and single 4GB stick of DDR4 RAM. It is running Win10 Home with latest update.

 

Initially, my other Windows 10 computer (with an identical ASUS B150M motherboard) didn't have this bug, then the update happened, and bug started happening on this computer too.

 

Now hardware bugs are pretty rare. What would the chances be of two computers exhibiting the same hardware bug. Very small IMO, and the only other thing the two have in common is they both run Windows 10 Home, and they both updated with the latest Creator Update before I started having problem

 


So, for the Home computer, I used SHIFT RESTART to boot into the troubleshooting mode, and chose Advanced Options and Go back to the Previous Version.... AUIU, this should roll back the latest major update.

After the restart, I redid the ACDSee batch process from the original image files, and no corruption. Every file is perfect. I grabbed a job I have on hand to batch process 250 original jpg image files.... no corrupted files. I tested several other files in Photoshop, Lightroom and ACDsee, loading, manually cropping, zooming in and out, and saving.... no corruption.

 

I'm suspecting a driver problem somewhere, but exactly what it is, I have no idea. What I am afraid of is having the next Windows update screw everything up again. These computers are being used in a business environment... I cant afford to be wasting time rolling the bloody things back every time there is an update.

 

How am I going to know if a future update fixes this problem?

 

How can I stop these updates in the mean time?

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2042038 21-Jun-2018 22:12
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Regarding the recent Windows 10 update, I just figured out why three different USB hard disk enclosures stopped working on two completely different Windows 10 builds.

Problems seem to happen after 20 minutes, more or less.

In all cases, one or more USB HDD would simply disappear from Windows Explorer, and cause backup software to fail.

On one computer, the keyboard and mouse would also be completely disabled, but the power button would at least be able to gracefully shutdown.

On the other, the PC would become very unstable.

This affect various long running backup software, including Windows Explorer, Robocopy, FreeFileSync and SyncToy.

I was getting "semaphore timeout period has expired"

Microsoft must have somehow enabled the power saving mode on USB, because one PC was an old Intel build and one was a new AMD build, but both had problems.

The magic solutions:

1) use device manager to disable power savings on the USB root hubs (make sure to do them all)

2) use power options ... advanced setting to disable USB selective suspend setting

This webpage has details fix one the USB hard disk enclosure fix

https://www.techbout.com/usb-ports-not-working-in-windows-10-37771/

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  #2042955 23-Jun-2018 20:16
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An update.

Two older USB enclosures have have problems since the Windows 10 update.

It would manifest as the storage device working for a little while, then disappearing / disconnected, and sometimes completely freeezing all USB devices including the keyboard and mouse.

Newer USB hard drive enclosure works OK.

It's *not* a failed hard drive, even though it can act like one.

Tried lots of various standard Windows commands, like these
* disk management
* create and format hard disk partitions
* diskpart
* format

Here's some error that show up in the event viewer:

"An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk#\DR# during a paging operation."

Virtual Disk Service: "Unexpected failure. Error code: C000000E@020A0007"

VDS Basic Provider: "Unexpected failure. Error code: 2@01010013"

Disk event id 219: "The driver \Driver\WudfRd failed to load for the device ROOT\WPD\0000."

Disk event id 51: "An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk2\DR6 during a paging operation."

Ntfs event id 140: "The system failed to flush data to the transaction log. Corruption may occur in VolumeId: X:, DeviceName: \Device\HarddiskVolume##.
(A device which does not exist was specified.)"

Hope this helps if anyone has similar problems.

You should go ahead and do the previous steps

1) use device manager to disable power savings on the USB root hubs (make sure to do them all)

2) use power options ... advanced setting to disable USB selective suspend setting

But you may need to replace hardware, or wait till Microsoft fixes.

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  #2042957 23-Jun-2018 20:19
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Since the update I have had constant freezes on my esata encolsure drives. What was going at 40-50 MB/s writes to the storage space are not 8 on average with many long pauses in it. Left it too long to roll back I think, only noticed it when putting stuff on it last night. Also have seen the card completely drop and then reconnect to all the enclosures.

 

Guess its windows thinking it knows better about drivers when doing the update again.





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  #2042990 23-Jun-2018 22:46
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Couldn't figure out why our gigabit fibre was not doing its gigabit thing but more like 200 Mbps thing - turned out Windows default ethernet drivers are pretty bad. Considering laptop OEM don't release updated drivers after a year or so, I wonder how many people can't really take full advantage of their hardware.

 

Oh, wait... Ubuntu Linux! For example, below is a WiFi speedtest - Windows running the latest Intel Wireless drivers, released a couple of weeks ago, Ubuntu running the default drivers. Test taken minutes apart. Same laptop, just booted Linux from a USB drive. You don't need to guess, Linux is faster:

 

 





 

 

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  #2057055 16-Jul-2018 13:27
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Got the update to 1803 at home over the weekend; prompted me to download around midday Saturday and I defered it until 3am Sunday.

 

Took a backup of important files on the C Drive and .. no issues as far as I can tell.


 
 
 
 


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  #2072971 13-Aug-2018 21:15
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I'm climbing the walls here.

 

I queued up an a video encoding job that should have taken about 6-7 hours to run yesterday. Left it going. Came back later to discover that windows had automatically reinstalled the April update and restarted. So the job hadn't completed, and what's more the update had again disabled sound on the system. So I rolled back to the previous working build and got things working again.

 

Tonight I set up the same job to re-run, and went upstairs for dinner. I have just come back to find that Windows has yet again automatically reinstalled the April update and restarted. So once again my encoding job has failed, Windows has updated and the sound is broken again. So I have AGAIN rolled back to the previous working build and got things working again.

 

I have already disabled the Windows Update Service, and set my connection to metered, but that doesn't seem to stop the updates that keep wrecking my running batch jobs as well as crippling my system.

 

Before I throw this system out the window whilst shouting profanities, is there *anything* more I can do to stop these accursed updates*.

 

 

 

(* and no, I''m not looking for advice on why I shouldn't turn off updates, or homilies about why updates are in my own best interest, I understand all that)

 

 


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  #2072976 13-Aug-2018 21:49
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I don't do updates. This is why. I disabled them long ago. Instead, my security patch is regular scans with Defender and Malwarebytes. I also monitor my connection. Reinstalling seems a lot simpler to me than stuffing around with the kinds of issues cited here. So far it hasn't been necessary. Of course this wouldn't work for everyone, but my needs are simple 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #2073074 14-Aug-2018 08:38
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JimmyH:

 

I have already disabled the Windows Update Service, and set my connection to metered, but that doesn't seem to stop the updates that keep wrecking my running batch jobs as well as crippling my system.

 

 

 

 

You need to defer the update.  Go into settings > Updates & Security > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Set the feature update to whatever timeframe you wish.  

 

I have done this on my mediaportal computer because the April update breaks it totally (maybe theres a fix now, havent bothered to look).  It'll still do normal updates just not the big releases.  I have a feeling this is only an option for Windows 10 Pro though - I dont have any W10 Home computers here to check.  


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  #2073093 14-Aug-2018 09:15
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JimmyH:

 

Before I throw this system out the window whilst shouting profanities, is there *anything* more I can do to stop these accursed updates*.

 

 

Most of the 'fixes' no longer work. Updates still come through, update service gets turned back on.
MS has been actively disabling the old update blocking methods .

 

try this .
"Remove "SoftwareDistribution" and create a nonexistent shortcut to it, checking for updates will fail."
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8013-enable-disable-windows-update-automatic-updates-windows-10-a-50.html#post1236513

 

 


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  #2073108 14-Aug-2018 09:37
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askelon:

 

You need to defer the update.  Go into settings > Updates & Security > Windows Update > Advanced Options > Set the feature update to whatever timeframe you wish.  

 

 

Thanks. But it's not just about the inappropriate timing of the updates. I don't want to defer the updates, I want to block them completely. Every single time Windows does an update it breaks my system in some way (usually I lose all sound) and I have to roll it back manually. I'm sick of it.


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  #2073110 14-Aug-2018 09:38
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Rikkitic:

 

I don't do updates. This is why. I disabled them long ago. Instead, my security patch is regular scans with Defender and Malwarebytes. I also monitor my connection. Reinstalling seems a lot simpler to me than stuffing around with the kinds of issues cited here. So far it hasn't been necessary. Of course this wouldn't work for everyone, but my needs are simple 

 

 

Can you share how you have done this? It is exactly what I want to do.


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  #2073138 14-Aug-2018 10:14
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JimmyH:

 

Rikkitic:

 

I don't do updates. This is why. I disabled them long ago. Instead, my security patch is regular scans with Defender and Malwarebytes. I also monitor my connection. Reinstalling seems a lot simpler to me than stuffing around with the kinds of issues cited here. So far it hasn't been necessary. Of course this wouldn't work for everyone, but my needs are simple 

 

 

Can you share how you have done this? It is exactly what I want to do.

 

 

Don't go there.

 

 

 

In short. It's essentially 'use a product that is not based on a SaaS model' (windows 7)


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  #2073141 14-Aug-2018 10:21
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I no longer recall exactly what I did. It involved a registry hack and disabling the update service. I am running the Anniversary update, version 1609. I have not had any issues since I stopped updating.

 

 





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