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  #2012945 9-May-2018 20:23
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I have bought MS software of ebay for years. Ebay scrutinize carefully and withhold payment in Paypal until you sign ok. Cost for windows 10 is about NZ$5.

 

 

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  #2012954 9-May-2018 20:38
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There is no chance either of those will be legit licences.

There is no sense in paying to pirate stuff.




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  #2012958 9-May-2018 20:54
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they provide the key.

 

You download from the Microsoft site and imput the supplied key .

 

Updates arrive as normal via windows update.

 

If the key was not legit it would not let you do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  #2012988 9-May-2018 21:50
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You're saying you honestly believe you're buying a legit legal to use key for $5 from ebay, when they are 100's from more reputable sources?


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  #2012991 9-May-2018 22:02
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Removed posts with links to obvious pirate sources. Prepare for Banhammer.




 

 

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  #2012992 9-May-2018 22:07
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If you realize how Microsoft  keeps track of 0.5billion windows 10 PCs matching your unique PC ID to the license key with no duplications you wont get any pirated copies. 

 

 

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  #2013010 9-May-2018 22:46
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Thats all well and good for consumer, but that doesn't apply with MAK, which is what you will been buying. It is not a legit licence, pure and simple. Just because it activates and gets updates does not mean you are using the licence in a compliant way.


 
 
 
 


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  #2013120 10-May-2018 09:44
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Just because it activates does NOT mean it isnt pirated

 

Just because it activates doesnt mean MS wont later de-activeate & mark your install as pirated in the future

 

Ive seen that happen many times. Obviously pirated install disk , activated OK.
Months later I get a call saying its been flagged as pirated: just as I warned could happen .
Or activates OK the 1st time , then when you need to reload you find the install key is blocked/flagged

 

People know these things are dodgy, they just try & justify their dodgy purchases.
I can register a stolen/dodgy car , doesnt make it less stolen/dodgy .

 

 

 

 


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  #2013343 10-May-2018 12:44
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caveat emptor....let the buyer beware Is always relevant.

 

Do your homework before buying.

 

 When I see comments about pirated discs etc I realize how the world is changing. I have not seen a install disc for 10 years! A search in google will find as I said earlier about ebay the world wide trend (including NZ) is resellers selling keys to use from the  microsoft download site.

 

This is the way of the future .

 

 

 

 

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  #2013502 10-May-2018 16:56
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freitasm: Removed posts with links to obvious pirate sources. Prepare for Banhammer.

My link was fully legal an No pirate bay. IT hast been stated by court that The Reuse of Software is Like selling Hardware to a next User. Thema only requirement ist, that The old User has to deactivate it. Obviously Something Miles away For NZ.


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  #2013507 10-May-2018 17:01
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Interesting, I had a look at buying the upgrade to Pro from Home via Microsoft NZ store... $209... although I think pro/home is misleading as a name.





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  #2013510 10-May-2018 17:05
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andrewNZ: There is no chance either of those will be legit licences.

There is no sense in paying to pirate stuff.

This ist Not true at all.




- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense ZBOX CI329, C2960X-48TS-L, 3 GWN7630, Ellipse 1600+800
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/1T || 2 remote HC2 14T+4T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)

 

 


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  #2013516 10-May-2018 17:17
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lxsw20:

Thats all well and good for consumer, but that doesn't apply with MAK, which is what you will been buying. It is not a legit licence, pure and simple. Just because it activates and gets updates does not mean you are using the licence in a compliant way.


Disagree, at least For EU Land.

Reference: 'Urteil des Gerichtshofs der Europäischen Union vom 3. Juli 2012' sorry, in German




- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat
- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense ZBOX CI329, C2960X-48TS-L, 3 GWN7630, Ellipse 1600+800
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/1T || 2 remote HC2 14T+4T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)

 

 


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  #2013519 10-May-2018 17:34
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I have actually purchased a number of copies of windows 10 OEM off key sites with 0 issue from any of them dating back to when windows 10 was first launched costing around $20 nzd each

 

Its known as grey market they could be an obscure hardware manufacturer in a out of the way country that gets windows 10 cheaper or they could be part of a bulk licencing agreement I assume they are sold against microsoft's TOS.


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  #2013523 10-May-2018 17:48
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freitasm: Prepare for Banhammer.

Nope, never been in Northern Korea.

The Principle is simple. If one buy a PC With Win10 and uses Linux instead, one can sell The Win10 activation Key. Legally and confirmed by highest EU court. This ist true With Bulk OEM als Well.




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- ISP2: LTE USB modem + GL-AR750S, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)
- NET: OPNsense ZBOX CI329, C2960X-48TS-L, 3 GWN7630, Ellipse 1600+800
- SVR: 9i3C246 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, N2 4G/1T || 2 remote HC2 14T+4T
- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC 8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV
- IoT (EU868): openHAB, CCU3, Vantage ISS 6327, LoRaWAN 4 GWs/15 Nodes
- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MPCNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro
- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)

 

 


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