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Topic # 242372 24-Oct-2018 22:22
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I think a lot of people (including myself) will agree with this piece:



Windows isn't working – and Microsoft urgently needs to change how it develops the platform, and jettison three filthy practices it has acquired in recent years.


In 2014 Microsoft decided it could do a better job if it discarded a lot of software testers. This bright new dawn was lauded at the time by Peter Bright at Ars Technica in a piece titled "How Microsoft dragged its development practices into the 21st century". Testers were soooo 20th century.


The previous month, Microsoft had laid off many of its Windows testers.


"Under the new structure, a number of Windows engineers, primarily dedicated testers, will no longer be needed," wrote Mary Jo Foley in her scoop for ZDNet.


Crowdsourced testing would be the way forward – and we should be thankful for this, Ars advised. "The goal is to make the OS team work more like lean startups," we learned. Lean. Agile. Heard this one before?


"QA still exists and is still important, but it performs end-user style 'real world' testing, not programmatic automated testing. This testing has been successful for Bing, improving the team's ability to ship changes without harming overall software quality," Bright wrote.


ell, here we are. Over the past three years Windows 10 has been released at six-month intervals, so someone was doing the QA, but it showed less and less each time. Development slowed to a glacial pace. I would leave my biannual NDA walkthrough scratching my head at some of the headline features. 3D Paint? A new toolbar for gamers? An acrylic calculator? These were not only trivial, but they didn't seem to be on any professional user's wish list.


Perhaps concerned at this slow pace, Microsoft managers decided to take the foot off the brake. Caution was thrown to the wind.


Windows watchers see a company in a rush. Windows Insider builds migrate through three stages – Fast, Slow and Release – and each should be less risky than the last. Build 17758 sped from the bleeding-edge Fast Ring to the Slow Ring in just three days (breaking .NET). A few builds later, the RTM 17763 bypassed the Release stage entirely and leaped into the wild. "Microsoft closed that window in record time," notedNeowin's Rich Woods.


"It's entirely possible that the absurd breakneck pace of change we're seeing masks a complete breakdown in Microsoft's ability to produce reliable software," wrote Woody Leonard. "All I know for sure is that Windows is on a vicious downward spiral."


Then there's the problem of crowdsourcing. This crowd isn't worth much, and certainly isn't wise enough to spot the problems Microsoft's dysfunctional software processes are throwing up.



I think this whole "Windows-as-a-service" thing is badly implemented. We have an operating system that needs a full release to implement a better bookmark system for its built-in browser (not an exact description but you get the idea.) It's a shambles. A full release that adds a new screenshot tool. Wow. Thanks...


Reality is that we get a lot of the stuff we don't want or need and none of the stuff we want.


Security, reliability and speed should be the top of the mind.


Cortana? Yeah, ok, nah. Phone companion? Sure, but do you need a full release for that which could just be an app?

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  Reply # 2113561 25-Oct-2018 05:52
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I agree 100% with you on this.  If a person has an incredibly standard sort of home setup with a desktop or laptop and a printer they might have a perfectly smooth time with Windows 10.  Anyone with something a bit unusual or new it seems to be a lottery.


I remember watching a documentary about the early days of Microsoft.  When a new software product was getting close to being launched Bill Gates would sometimes not go home on some nights.  A MS employee in those days said she remembers coming into work and finding a person sleeping on the carpet next to a desk - it turned out to be Bill Gates.  Maybe what MS needs now is a young Bill Gates back in charge.


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  Reply # 2113632 25-Oct-2018 10:06
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amiga500: If a person has an incredibly standard sort of home setup with a desktop or laptop and a printer they might have a perfectly smooth time with Windows 10.

You mean the beta testers first ring? ; ).

Imo many of the 10 update issues are driver related and to some extent MS is shaking out the ecosystem. OEMs that do not keep up or provide updates. Maybe they need to tighten the logo requirements in that area.

The recent update issue with file deletion is probably still in the black as far as the accountants are concerned. Not much talk about it.


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  Reply # 2113663 25-Oct-2018 10:37
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the reality is MS dont care what we want.


Thats been proven when they ignored negative reactions to Win8 & initially Win10
What people wanted wasnt extreme or hard to implement. Some simple changes and everyone would have been happy with the product.

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  Reply # 2113689 25-Oct-2018 10:55
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Windows place at the top of the pack is Windows worst enemy. I am sure there are many Microsoft that believe that Windows is still number one, circa 75% on the desktop so they don't have an issue and as such the quality of the OS has slipped considerably over the last 12 to 18 months. However that number one slot is not being maintained by quality is is being maintained by momentum and habit. If more Windows users were aware of the alternatives Windows hold on the top spot would be under threat. Trouble sits just in the wings for Microsoft, there is a generation moving through the Primary and Middle schools that are growing up using an alternative to Windows, that is Chrome OS. There is a very good chance that many of those kids will continue to use what they are familiar with when they leave school and Chrome OS will place Microsoft and Windows under considerable threat. 

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  Reply # 2113736 25-Oct-2018 11:49
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Some of those alternatives to Windows 10 give a very smooth experience.  Android 8.1 on my Nokia zero problems with updates & apps such as Instagram and Google Photos are really good and never crash.


I can see Chrome getting more and more popular.  People will rationalise that Google and Microsoft will use your data to make money from advertising, so might as well go with Chrome if it works better.

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