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  # 2265638 27-Jun-2019 09:58
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you want to reinstall on a new SSD with the current win 7 licence but install 64 bit version

 

after activating win 7 which it should, only then would you update to win 10 for free.





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  # 2265642 27-Jun-2019 09:59
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Batman:

you want to reinstall on a new SSD with the current win 7 licence but install 64 bit version


after activating win 7 which it should, only then would you update to win 10 for free.



Sounds like a great solution.

 
 
 
 


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  # 2265643 27-Jun-2019 09:59
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Amosnz:

sbiddle:


1101:


MS have specially stated the free update period is over, and stated that activation is not an indication of a valid 10 license



MS have said the free update period is over, but that's never resulted in updates failing. Do you have a source for that statement about not having a valid licence? I have certainly never read anything that indicates this.


Once Windows is activated it has a digital licence which can be viewed from inside Windows.



I had a friend in aussie whose SSD died so had to do a re-install from scratch on a new one.  Originally the system was running Win7 and he'd done the Win10 upgrade (ages ago) and it was activated.


After he replaced the SSD and re-installed win10 didn't re-activate, so he rang MS and was told 'the windows 7 license you upgraded from was an OEM licence and w10 can't be re-registered'.  So had to buy a new w10 license.



In order to transfer those licenses you need to register them on a microsoft account. Login to the same account on a new install and you can transfer the digital license.

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  # 2265652 27-Jun-2019 10:16
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Amosnz:

 

sbiddle:

 

1101:

 

MS have specially stated the free update period is over, and stated that activation is not an indication of a valid 10 license

 

 

MS have said the free update period is over, but that's never resulted in updates failing. Do you have a source for that statement about not having a valid licence? I have certainly never read anything that indicates this.

 

Once Windows is activated it has a digital licence which can be viewed from inside Windows.

 

 

I had a friend in aussie whose SSD died so had to do a re-install from scratch on a new one.  Originally the system was running Win7 and he'd done the Win10 upgrade (ages ago) and it was activated.

 

After he replaced the SSD and re-installed win10 didn't re-activate, so he rang MS and was told 'the windows 7 license you upgraded from was an OEM licence and w10 can't be re-registered'.  So had to buy a new w10 license.

 

 

That's a very different scenario - but actually doesn't make sense either.

 

Windows 10 OEM licences are tied to hardware but exclude HDD upgrades. Once you have upgraded an OEM install to Windows 10 you have a fully valid Windows 10 OEM digital licence but it is tied to the same OEM hardware restrictions. These restrictions do not permit motherboard changes, but a HDD upgrade (or HDD to SSD migration) is fully permitted as part of those rules and will not require a new licence as part of the Microsoft licence restrictions.

 

I've upgraded a number of OEM based Windows 7 machines to Windows 7 and completed subsequent SSD upgrades and never encountered an issue.


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  # 2265676 27-Jun-2019 11:21
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sbiddle:

 

1101:MS have specially stated the free update period is over, and stated that activation is not an indication of a valid 10 license

 

MS have said the free update period is over, but that's never resulted in updates failing. Do you have a source for that statement about not having a valid licence? I have certainly never read anything that indicates this.

 

Once Windows is activated it has a digital licence which can be viewed from inside Windows.

 

 

Its in the EULA
"Successful activation does not confirm that the software is genuine or properly licensed."
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

AND MS long ago stated when the free ug offer ended . Every one seems to just ignore that :-)

No where has MS ever stated that we can still do the free ug.
Its just people finding loopholes and making assumptions to suit themselves. I'll have to include myself there .

 

I could also install a Office (single lic) on several PC's , or reuse OEM Office/Win on a brand new PC & activate it. That activation doesnt give me a valid lic on those installs .

 

Im sure MS could put a stop to this if they really cared .
What will be interesting will be MS's response after Jan2020 when 7-10 upgrades go from a trickle to a flood

 

 

 

 




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  # 2265820 27-Jun-2019 17:09
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After a discussion with MS today, I learned that the product key while genuine had been used 5 times already so cannot he used again to activate Windows, regardless of what version of Windows the laptop is migrated to. So will stay put with 32bit Win 7.

Any advances on recommended malware protection?


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  # 2265854 27-Jun-2019 18:39
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1101:

 

sbiddle:

 

1101:MS have specially stated the free update period is over, and stated that activation is not an indication of a valid 10 license

 

MS have said the free update period is over, but that's never resulted in updates failing. Do you have a source for that statement about not having a valid licence? I have certainly never read anything that indicates this.

 

Once Windows is activated it has a digital licence which can be viewed from inside Windows.

 

 

Its in the EULA
"Successful activation does not confirm that the software is genuine or properly licensed."
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Retail/Windows/10/UseTerms_Retail_Windows_10_English.htm

 

 

Such a clause is precisely there to cover people who buy $2 Office or Windows 10 licences on eBay that will activate but could be revoked at any time if the OEM or volume licencing keys are revoked.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2265958 27-Jun-2019 21:24
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Ive bought some off one of the cheap game sites in the past and they're still going fine.





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On topic, to me felt like hardware failure of the hard-drive given the age of the device so likely replacing the hard-drive with a 256GB SSD wouldn't be a cheap way of getting a few more years out of it. Multiple AVs is always fun if they're not excluding each other from real-time scanning (I want it in my quarantine, no I want it, no you can't have it cos I want it).




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  # 2269306 3-Jul-2019 13:36
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Jogre:

On topic, to me felt like hardware failure of the hard-drive given the age of the device so likely replacing the hard-drive with a 256GB SSD wouldn't be a cheap way of getting a few more years out of it. Multiple AVs is always fun if they're not excluding each other from real-time scanning (I want it in my quarantine, no I want it, no you can't have it cos I want it).

looking at this in hindsight, @coffeebaron solution would have been best. Saw SSDs with Windows10 including product key for about USD100 on eBay. Much faster for me to fix, a double upgrade (OS and drive) and overall would be cheaper for the owner. Since I knew her personally I charged her peanuts. But with labour at market rates the SSD would have been a much cheaper and better performing option

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