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  # 2392633 15-Jan-2020 17:23
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old3eyes:

 

I think I'll stick with Win 7 for a few months yet.  Hey I just got a 300 plus Meg  Win 7 security etc update .. 

 

 

Possibly to do with the vulnerability the NSA found and reported to Microsoft affecting numerous OS versions.... Just luck that it was patched before support expired I expect

 

 

 

https://www.cert.govt.nz/it-specialists/advisories/critical-vulnerabilities-in-microsoft-windows/

 

 


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  # 2392687 15-Jan-2020 20:05
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timmmay:

 

Unless you have really, really rare equipment it should "just work" on W10. You can check compatibility. To be super safe you could:

 

  • Create an image with Macrium Reflect so you can easily restore W7
  • Put a new disk in (SSD) so you can really quickly recover

 

 

W10 is better than W7 IMHO.

 

 

Thanks you.

 

I don't believe I have rare equipment and agree that "it should work". It is a Dell Inspiron, 14Z 5423, i5 3317 1.7Ghz 64 bit, with 8 Gb of RAM.

 

When I looked at updating to Win 10 a couple of years ago (perhaps longer) there were some driver updates required which Dell were not going to deliver. I don't remember what these were for now. Perhaps the OEM for the the hardware concerned has since provided these updates.

 

I know there were several users with this laptop posting on various forums about they problems they had. I know that so often 95% have no issues and it's only the 5% who do, who make all the noise, and are the only ones posting. I couldn't find any posters saying they had upgraded without any problems. I didn't want to take the risk.

 

I have no problem with using Win 10 and agree it is probably better than Win 7. I just cannot afford to have an issue doing the upgrade and then having problems getting everything to work and or having to try and roll back the update.

 

I will take a look at the information you provided and do some more research. Thanks again.





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  # 2392688 15-Jan-2020 20:14
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chevrolux:

 

Hopefully all the browsers just put nagging prompts in for Win 7 machines like they did for XP - but they should make them permanent, rather than dismissable. Just annoy the cr4p out of Win 7 operators until they upgrade.

 

 

Posts like this aren't particularly helpful. What's it matter to you if someone remains in Win 7?

 

The lack of support for Win 7 doesn't bother me at all. If it wasn't for some features of Win 10 I'd not be even considering the upgrade right now.





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  # 2392728 15-Jan-2020 23:16
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Upgraded an elderly neighbours PC today from win7 to 10. Effortless.

 

Took a backup, ran the update from a prepared USB stick, came back a few hours later and we were in win 10, no issues.


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  # 2392732 16-Jan-2020 01:30
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snnet:

old3eyes:


I think I'll stick with Win 7 for a few months yet.  Hey I just got a 300 plus Meg  Win 7 security etc update .. 



Possibly to do with the vulnerability the NSA found and reported to Microsoft affecting numerous OS versions.... Just luck that it was patched before support expired I expect


 


https://www.cert.govt.nz/it-specialists/advisories/critical-vulnerabilities-in-microsoft-windows/


 



The last round of patching for Win7 was always going to be on the same day as it went EOL.
Microsoft always ends support for it's OS's on patch Tues/Weds. Same with their Office products e.g. Office 2010 is EOL on Oct 13, 2020 which is patch Tuesday.


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  # 2392752 16-Jan-2020 08:52
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snnet:

 

old3eyes:

 

I think I'll stick with Win 7 for a few months yet.  Hey I just got a 300 plus Meg  Win 7 security etc update .. 

 

 

Possibly to do with the vulnerability the NSA found and reported to Microsoft affecting numerous OS versions.... Just luck that it was patched before support expired I expect

 

 

 

https://www.cert.govt.nz/it-specialists/advisories/critical-vulnerabilities-in-microsoft-windows/

 

 

 

 

No, that issue only effects Windows 10 and Server 2016/2019. Earlier versions didn't implement that particular crypto method. The Windows 7 update is just a normal security cleanup etc but doesn't have that particular headline grabbing issue.


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  # 2392756 16-Jan-2020 09:06
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We got a full size nag screen triggered on a monitoring pc today

 
 
 
 


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  # 2392757 16-Jan-2020 09:09
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Oblivian: We got a full size nag screen triggered on a monitoring pc today

 

I got that once yesterday. I haven't seen it since I closed it.  Fingers crossed.





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  # 2392798 16-Jan-2020 09:12
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Apparently if you just press the Close button then it'll come back, but if you click "don't show again" it won't.


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  # 2393746 16-Jan-2020 09:25
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I haven't seen it. Determined Win7 user here.

 

 





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  # 2400237 16-Jan-2020 20:13
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Varkk:

 

snnet:

 

old3eyes:

 

I think I'll stick with Win 7 for a few months yet.  Hey I just got a 300 plus Meg  Win 7 security etc update .. 

 

 

Possibly to do with the vulnerability the NSA found and reported to Microsoft affecting numerous OS versions.... Just luck that it was patched before support expired I expect

 

 

 

https://www.cert.govt.nz/it-specialists/advisories/critical-vulnerabilities-in-microsoft-windows/

 

 

 

 

No, that issue only effects Windows 10 and Server 2016/2019. Earlier versions didn't implement that particular crypto method. The Windows 7 update is just a normal security cleanup etc but doesn't have that particular headline grabbing issue.

 

 

Nope, it also affects windows 7:

 

The RDP client vulnerability (CVE-2020-0611 External Link) affects:

 

  • Windows Server 2008, 2012, 2016, 2019
  • Windows 7, 8.1, 10

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  # 2400263 16-Jan-2020 21:28
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The message was telling me that my computer wouldn’t be probably good performance wise for Win 10 and to buy a new computer.


Computer still going good, so that’s not going to happen.

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  # 2400265 16-Jan-2020 21:31
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rugrat: The message was telling me that my computer wouldn’t be probably good performance wise for Win 10 and to buy a new computer.


Computer still going good, so that’s not going to happen.

 

 

 

Plenty of Linux Distros available.


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  # 2400266 16-Jan-2020 21:31
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@snnet:

 

Varkk:

 

snnet:

 

old3eyes:

 

I think I'll stick with Win 7 for a few months yet.  Hey I just got a 300 plus Meg  Win 7 security etc update .. 

 

 

Possibly to do with the vulnerability the NSA found and reported to Microsoft affecting numerous OS versions.... Just luck that it was patched before support expired I expect

 

https://www.cert.govt.nz/it-specialists/advisories/critical-vulnerabilities-in-microsoft-windows/

 

 

No, that issue only effects Windows 10 and Server 2016/2019. Earlier versions didn't implement that particular crypto method. The Windows 7 update is just a normal security cleanup etc but doesn't have that particular headline grabbing issue.

 

 

Nope, it also affects windows 7:

 

The RDP client vulnerability (CVE-2020-0611 External Link) affects:

 

  • Windows Server 2008, 2012, 2016, 2019
  • Windows 7, 8.1, 10

 

The Crypto vulnerability reported by the NSA affects only Windows 10 as it is not implemented on Windows 7 and Windows 8. This is different from the RDP vulnerabilities.





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  # 2400278 16-Jan-2020 21:45
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freitasm:

 

@snnet:

 

Varkk:

 

snnet:

 

old3eyes:

 

I think I'll stick with Win 7 for a few months yet.  Hey I just got a 300 plus Meg  Win 7 security etc update .. 

 

 

Possibly to do with the vulnerability the NSA found and reported to Microsoft affecting numerous OS versions.... Just luck that it was patched before support expired I expect

 

https://www.cert.govt.nz/it-specialists/advisories/critical-vulnerabilities-in-microsoft-windows/

 

 

No, that issue only effects Windows 10 and Server 2016/2019. Earlier versions didn't implement that particular crypto method. The Windows 7 update is just a normal security cleanup etc but doesn't have that particular headline grabbing issue.

 

 

Nope, it also affects windows 7:

 

The RDP client vulnerability (CVE-2020-0611 External Link) affects:

 

  • Windows Server 2008, 2012, 2016, 2019
  • Windows 7, 8.1, 10

 

The Crypto vulnerability reported by the NSA affects only Windows 10 as it is not implemented on Windows 7 and Windows 8. This is different from the RDP vulnerabilities.

 

 

Correct! which is what my original post and the link contained referred to :) 


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