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dmw

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  # 266753 25-Oct-2009 22:42
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freitasm:
There are free, open source alternatives, you know? But if you must use Windows (because of a specific business app or because you are a keen gamer) then that's the price.


While you are correct, Microsoft sells the same upgrades overseas at one third of the NZ price (eg if you need 3 licences, then the US Family Pack Upgrade is NZ$200 for 3 PCs).

That is my major complaint. Why not here too?

If Microsoft can afford to sell Family Pack upgrades in UK, Canada, several EU counrties, and sell upgrades to students for $US30 with problems, and give away upgrades to testers, launch party hosts and lucky twitterers, that all indicates that NZ$600+ is too much to pay for 3 upgrade licences in NZ.

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  # 266765 25-Oct-2009 23:26
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Because Micro$oft are stubborn born Americans.

 
 
 
 


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  # 266840 26-Oct-2009 12:25
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I see pricespy have the Windows 7 pricing up.

http://www.pricespy.co.nz/cat_14.html?g=197

So far the stand alone versions are at:

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Retail - $201
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Retail - $280
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit English DSP OEI DVD - $325

These prices seem pretty resonable as Noel lemming have Windows 7 Ultimate for $599.



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  # 266935 26-Oct-2009 17:18
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langi27: I see pricespy have the Windows 7 pricing up.

http://www.pricespy.co.nz/cat_14.html?g=197

So far the stand alone versions are at:

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Retail - $201
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Retail - $280
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit English DSP OEI DVD - $325

These prices seem pretty resonable as Noel lemming have Windows 7 Ultimate for $599.





Do these versions have both the 32 and 64 bit OS on them??




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Old3eyes


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  # 267242 27-Oct-2009 13:59
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I went out to buy win7
I spotted the prices
i went home without win 7

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  # 268637 30-Oct-2009 17:40
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Krisando: Because Micro$oft are stubborn born Americans.


I'm offended by that comment.  The marketing director is a Kiwi and MS NZ would clearly have a major say in pricing.

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  # 268652 30-Oct-2009 19:11
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Don't ya love winge threads like this...

People winging that the prices should be lower so they can afford it....its simple people...if you can't afford it, you can't have it, that's reality.

I would love to own a Porche, but I'm not going to winge to Porche that they should drop the price of their hundred thousand dollar cars to a couple thousand, so that I can afford it eh?

Enough said.




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  # 268692 30-Oct-2009 22:15
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The issue, IMHO, is not the absolute pricing. The issue is the inequity of selling upgrades in USA for one third of the cost in NZ (if you want 3 upgrade licences).


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  # 268704 30-Oct-2009 22:55
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dmw: The issue, IMHO, is not the absolute pricing. The issue is the inequity of selling upgrades in USA for one third of the cost in NZ (if you want 3 upgrade licences).



i aggree

Also it is about econmic reality, what family, has that much spare cash to splash out on an os, no matter how good it is?

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  # 268761 31-Oct-2009 09:46
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Personally I do not see $180 as alot of money, most families can afford that.
$180 gets you the OEM Premium...buy some RAM with it.




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  # 268796 31-Oct-2009 14:29
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Anyone noticed that all the news paper ads for W7 are all upgrade prices?? Guess it to make it seem allot cheaper or to suck all the Vista lemmings into upgrading..




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  # 268976 1-Nov-2009 11:37
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Vista users are "lemmings" and they are being "sucked in" to W7? WTF?

I'm done here, my family pack is installed at a reasonable $70 each and I'm moving on!

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  # 269576 3-Nov-2009 12:27
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Got this in an email from Windows 7 News. Seems the Australians are just as pissed of with M$ prices for W7 as we are.

"Australia is not far behind the United Kingdom, the EU, Japan, Canada and the United States in its usage of Microsoft products. Large numbers of Australian computer users regularly use the current versions of Windows. This market makes for a rich source of income for Microsoft.

Why then does Microsoft treat Australia as second-class citizens?

I have two grievances about this unreasonable behaviour which I’d like to air.
Grievance No 1

Why do we pay a higher price for Windows 7 in Australia?

Here we have to pay premium prices for both the upgrade and the full versions. The Table below shows you current Australian prices and compares them with the United Kingdom, and the United States. You can see there is a significant pricing difference.Windows 7 Price Comparison Australia United Kingdom Convert to $AU United States Convert to $AU

Home Premium Upgrade $ 199.00 ?64.66 $ 118.11 $ 114.99 $ 127.70
Home Premium Full Version $ 299.00 ?106.33 $ 194.22 $ 188.99 $ 209.89
Home Premium Family Pack N/A ?129.95 $ 235.63 $ 178.99 $ 198.78


Note: The comparative prices are taken from Amazon, US and Amazon UK. The currency conversion rates are current at writing this post.

The costs for the upgrade and full copy for the Professional and the Ultimate versions are below:

Upgrade
Professional $399 AU
Ultimate $429 AU

Full Version
Professional $449 AU
Ultimate $469 AU

Now it should be said that by a little judicious shopping around you can get all versions, with the exception of the Home Premium Family Pack a little cheaper here in Australia but not by much.
Grievance No 2

My second complaint concerns the availability of Home Premium Family Pack.

While it is freely available in the United Kingdom and the United States, it is unavailable in Australia. Here we miss out again!
Why are we in Australia deprived?

Is this because Australia is at the ends of the earth and we don’t count for much or is there a more sinister reason. Why should Microsoft stop milking the cash cow that is the Australian consumer market? Am I being cynical when I say it isn’t economic!

I believe Microsoft is quite happy to clean up in Australia by only providing the upgrade version or the full version, knowing full well that all those Aussies will line up in droves and buy the new product anyway.
A possible light at the end of the tunnel!

In one of our computer magazines the writer suggested that Microsoft might, and he said “a big might!” generously provide the Home Premium Family Pack some time in 2010.

Meantime those families with two or more computers will have to consider whether it is good economics to buy two copies of Windows 7 or perhaps wait for the possible arrival of the Home Premium Family version in the distant future. It’s crazy that this Family Pack deal is available in other parts of the world but not here. I’m sure Apple does not restrict the sale of their family pack.

In conclusion, I am bound to say that Microsoft’s failure to provide the Home Premium Family Pack misses a golden opportunity to fill households in Australia with Windows 7. This is an incredible oversight.

I can’t work Microsoft out!

And another thing! I regularly buy books and CDs from Amazon, in fact you could say I am a good customer BUT when I tried to purchase the Home Premium Family Pack my request was refused. It seems Amazon is barred from selling software to overseas customers. Is this another example of Microsoft pulling the strings?"

http://windows7news.com/2009/11/01/so-much-for-product-loyalty/





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Old3eyes


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  # 269629 3-Nov-2009 14:38
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We bought W7 Pro Upgrade for $450, has major bugs. Every time we restart pc it installs the same updates, it installs a broken lan driver which we have to install another every time the pc boots up to go online. Printers x64 apps/driver do not work like they did in the RC and they are the latest..

I guess we will just install it on all our pcs, I don't care if it's in the license or not. It's Microsoft's fault they don't release home packs outside there homeland.

Also once activated make an image, instead of having to activate it every time it will work. So you can install on multiple pcs without having to ring up the Microsoft Indian customer service to activate.

Also you can install upgrade with no previous version of Windows installed, just install with no key then once it is installed click activate, enter in your key and activate. No mucking around.

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  # 270068 4-Nov-2009 16:26
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Well... that is why people just download it I guess

LOL

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