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  #521107 14-Sep-2011 18:03
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nathan: Windows 7 already optimises for SSD use

Is it not doing this for you?


No it doesn't.

There are a number of actions you need to take to maximise the lifespan of the SSD. 

Here is an optimisation guide...

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/3116/tweaktown_s_solid_state_drive_optimization_guide/index.html
 

There are other things as well, such as ensuring disks always remain on---SSD's don't like having their power cut as they are busy even when idle. 

Windows 7 doesn't allow selective drive depowering.  
As for SSD, the advice i got from OCZ - the ssd manufacturer - about a month ago, was this: "At the moment, nothing special is needed except to not sleep the drive". 


Your article that you linke is from the start of 2010.  Thats nearly 2 years old. 

 


Yet, on the OCZ guide they list some items.

The physics of SSD has not changed since 2010. Cells degrade with write cycles. You want to minimise write cycles. 

You're still using the same windows 7 that you were using in 2010. 

Things such as indexing are not good for your drive.  

You should also make sure you are not defragging your drive. 

You really should read the ocz optimizations that are needed for the OS. 

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79848-THE-BASIC-GUIDE-amp-FAQ-ABC-for-OCZ-SSD&p=567557&viewfull=1#post567557
 
 

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  #521111 14-Sep-2011 18:08
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Win7 already tunes itself for SSDs like disabling defrag

wreck90:
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wreck90:
nathan: Windows 7 already optimises for SSD use

Is it not doing this for you?


No it doesn't.

There are a number of actions you need to take to maximise the lifespan of the SSD.?

Here is an optimisation guide...

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/3116/tweaktown_s_solid_state_drive_optimization_guide/index.html
?

There are other things as well, such as ensuring disks always remain on---SSD's don't like having their power cut as they are busy even when idle.?

Windows 7 doesn't allow selective drive depowering. ?
As for SSD, the advice i got from OCZ - the ssd manufacturer - about a month ago,?was this: "At the moment, nothing special is needed except to not sleep the drive".?


Your article that you?linke is from the start of 2010.? Thats nearly 2 years old.?

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Yet, on the OCZ guide they list some items.

The physics of SSD has not changed since 2010.?Cells degrade with write cycles.?You want to minimise write cycles.?

You're still using the same windows 7 that you were using in 2010.?

Things such as indexing are not good for your drive. ?

You should also make sure you are not defragging your drive.?

You really should read the ocz optimizations that are needed for the OS.?

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79848-THE-BASIC-GUIDE-amp-FAQ-ABC-for-OCZ-SSD&p=567557&viewfull=1#post567557
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  #521249 15-Sep-2011 01:41
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wreck90:
You really should read the ocz optimizations that are needed for the OS. 

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79848-THE-BASIC-GUIDE-amp-FAQ-ABC-for-OCZ-SSD&p=567557&viewfull=1#post567557
 
 



i re-read this thread and didnt find a single item that needed changing on my standard windows 7 installation.
* TRIM: enabled by default
* defrag: disabled on ssd by default
* indexing service: disabled on win7 by default
* windows search: leave it on
* drive indexing: i have files on my ssd, and i want them indexed
* windows 'accelerators': article says 'best to let windows 7 handle them'

so, where are all these optimizations you say i need to make?




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  #521262 15-Sep-2011 07:49
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wreck90:
You really should read the ocz optimizations that are needed for the OS. 

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?79848-THE-BASIC-GUIDE-amp-FAQ-ABC-for-OCZ-SSD&p=567557&viewfull=1#post567557
 
 



i re-read this thread and didnt find a single item that needed changing on my standard windows 7 installation.
* TRIM: enabled by default
* defrag: disabled on ssd by default
* indexing service: disabled on win7 by default
* windows search: leave it on
* drive indexing: i have files on my ssd, and i want them indexed
* windows 'accelerators': article says 'best to let windows 7 handle them'

so, where are all these optimizations you say i need to make?


Drive indexing can be left off- SSD's are so fast  it is not required. 

I disabled system restore , but you should not do this unless you understand the implications.

There are accelerators such as superfetch that are not really needed in an SSD environment. 

I disabled hibernation too, since my machine is always on. Not a biggie though.

At one point , OCZ were recommending to disable HDD sleeping, but I'm not sure they are doing this now. 

So, there certainly are changes that will help reduce write cycles. You just choose not to make them. 


 

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  #521610 15-Sep-2011 17:46
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The thing I find interesting about the Metro UI is that I think it might be a bit heavy on peoples visual memory and increase cognetive load.

I have enough trouble trying to remember where the menus are on the xbox, let alone trying to remember where they are on every other device I might use. Also, I am wondering how much mental effort is involved with looking for a picture tile and then working out what it is and if it is the right one.

It will be interesting to see how elderly people or how people with little computer experience deal with a visual inteface (and I am interested to see how people that are color blind might experience it).

I guess I will have to sit down with it for a while and go through the learning curve before deciding how I like it.




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