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  Reply # 2068030 4-Aug-2018 17:24
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In recent times Suse has become a very bloated and labour intensive beast and frankly a pain to deal with compared to Mint and other offerings. The more modern distributions have left Suse behind with regards to management and installation. An OS is supposed to work for you not the other way around and with the current Open Suse it is just tiresome. Add to the labour instability and bugs the latest OpenSuse is just not worth the hassle and cost of extra coffee.



I for sure don't agree with any of this. openSUSE has the most polished and integrated offering of Plasma amongst Linux distros (can't really comment on the other DEs). It's installation wizard is probably the easiest and most intuitive to use of any OS I have come across (including Windows). While the install media is quite bloated at over 4GB, remember that this contains for or five DEs (you would really only choose 1) and the install process makes it very easy to leave out anything you don't want - meaning it is possible to have a very pared back offering. 

I find I struggle with Windows 7 / 10 now a lot more than I do with Plasma / Suse and, at least on my system, it is more stable, faster and easier to use than windows (on a thinkpad that is a few years old).


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  Reply # 2072543 13-Aug-2018 10:47
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I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I have eight computers here running Linux, mostly Debian, occasionally I run the beta version of Xubuntu. I have no idea what these bugs are because I never really noticed any issues.


Granted there are a few bits of software like the XFCE file manager that aren't too good, but there are other ones available that work better.


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  Reply # 2072559 13-Aug-2018 11:13
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Never regretted switching to Linux about 2 1/2 years and it's it hard to believe it was only that long. I still have one old, very low spec computer running Windows 10, a Windows 8.1 tablet that rarely gets used, and about 10 (including several old boxes in storage) running Linux. The only reason I still need Windows for anything is a handful of small applications, the scanner software, Google photos backup and one or two other things. 


Windows 10 is the worst version of Windows ever, just a big advertising money grabbing platform for MS. It's interesting for me to look back and see how much I have lost faith in MS since January 2017. I actually spent money on a new box to run it. Not very long ago that box got turned into a Linux computer.


  • MS held a gun to everyone's head to force them to convert to it.
  • They even snuck a download of Windows 10 in the background onto people's PCs to make it easier to persuade them how easy it would be to upgrade.
  • Loads of issues with USB devices (phones or cameras) with ridiculous error messages that it can't download data, data is in the wrong format, etc. 
  • MS can change what is installed on Windows 10 at any time without any concern about what users think.
  • Installation upgrades that got stuck for hours at some small percentage were a common sight at a school where I worked when we were trialling Windows 10 on a few staff computers. It reminded me of our failed transition to Vista that never got further than one computer because of all the issues we could not have foreseen.
  • Still can't move the user folders to a different disk or partition. This feature being fully supported in Linux makes reinstalls really fast and easy compared to the drama of having to back everything up on Windows before you can reinstall.

I could probably think of more reasons...


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  Reply # 2072567 13-Aug-2018 11:37
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It maybe just me but 2018 is looking like an annus horibilis for Linux Distributions. Why is this? There seems to be regression in so many of the offerings so far this year especially Fedora 28, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, Debian, Mint 19, Manjaro and for special mention Open Suse 15. All of those seem to have gone backwards and the one time darlings of Distributions Ubuntu and Mint are just too buggy for words. I simply cannot see how Ubuntu 18.04 was a suitable LTS candidate. Mint 19 and Fedora 28 frankly should still be in Beta as they are not fit for consumption. Sometimes missing a release date is better than releasing a train wreck.


I'm interested to hear what complaints you have with Debian? I use Stretch on my servers and I use Buster with LXDE as a desktop OS. Very happy with the stability and speed of Debian and haven't heard of any obvious complaints.



Totally hard to understand. I have 9.5 on most of my computers, and one that is running Buster alpha 3. Debian is the best distro ever, look at all the other ones that hang off it.


It took me a long long time to get used to Debian, it's not really for beginners but now that I have got used to it, it is just the best thing for every computer I have. Even ditched Xubuntu off a few of them in favour of Debian/XFCE. What is all the whinge about Gnome, I have never ever installed it, and only briefly looked at KDE. Even used Cinnamon on Mint for a while. I use XFCE on everything because you don't waste resources on bloat.

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