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Topic # 159906 16-Dec-2014 19:28
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With iCloud photos (currently beta) I want to prepare to consolidate and upload our iPhoto library to my iCloud account.
Please can anyone suggest a way I can upload this large number of files?
I only have ADSL at home. The photos are stored on a laptop, I could take this somewhere with a good UFB connection for example. Once the big initial upload is done, the small incremental additions will be ok to do at home.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph

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  Reply # 1198612 16-Dec-2014 19:43
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Is VDSL not available to you at your home location?




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  Reply # 1198613 16-Dec-2014 19:45
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I don't know about icloud but microsoft deliberately restrict the upload and download speed of their severs so you do not compromise other users.

I wanted to do the same for office 365 migrations but it was pointless.

Just use your DSL connection and turn your laptop on to upload when you are sleeping or at work, might take a few weeks.

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  Reply # 1198627 16-Dec-2014 20:17
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Huh. Well last time I checked, several months ago, VDSL was not available. Now it is! Got the go ahead from the boss. Have ordered online and see if it's all go!

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  Reply # 1198629 16-Dec-2014 20:24
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What's your attenuation? That'll give an idea off your speeds.

I can't wait for ufb to be available for that very reason ... Cloud storage!

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  Reply # 1198633 16-Dec-2014 20:27
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iCloud should perhaps do something like what CrashPlan does and send out a hard drive the first time you upload a large bunch of photos on it, then you send it back for them to upload it to your account.




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  Reply # 1198635 16-Dec-2014 20:30
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josephhinvest: With iCloud photos (currently beta) I want to prepare to consolidate and upload our iPhoto library to my iCloud account.
Please can anyone suggest a way I can upload this large number of files?
I only have ADSL at home. The photos are stored on a laptop, I could take this somewhere with a good UFB connection for example. Once the big initial upload is done, the small incremental additions will be ok to do at home.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Joseph


By my calculations, if you have a good ADSL2 connection AND DON'T USE YOUR PC FOR ANYTHING ELSE, you can upload 300MB per hour.
150GB will take about 500 hours to upload.
Good luck wink




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  Reply # 1198636 16-Dec-2014 20:32
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Are you a professional photographer? That's a lot of photos. I've photographed 120 odd weddings, the keepers (400 - 700 per wedding) in RAW plus albums and PSD files come to around 175GB all up for all my professional work over 7 years. Of course I delete the rubbish photos and duplicates in my professional work, I'd say I delete 3/4 of the personal photos I take too.

The delete key is fairly key for me, and can reduce data storage needs and bandwidth requirements for many.

How to upload - just chip away at it IMHO.




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  Reply # 1198638 16-Dec-2014 20:36
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Go here and look for a local school connected to the N4L network: http://map.n4l.co.nz/ , edit the filter to only show connected schools, if they are connected they will have Fibre + unlimited data. [hint larger schools have faster connections]

Go nuts :)



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  Reply # 1198642 16-Dec-2014 20:42
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Ooh lots of responses, thanks.

Attenuation? Will check but not sure which value is the important one.
Cloud storage, indeed. I will happily pay $5/month for Apple to store my photos and have them available on all my devices etc.
Yes uploading has always been very frustrating, even small movies to YouTube.
Not a fotog, just an early adopter of digital camera with thousands and thousands of family photos and videos.

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From my router.

1 day, 22:55:43
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 933 / 8.132
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 43,83 / 1,32
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,3 / 19,3
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 11,2 / 24,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 12,8 / 12,0

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  Reply # 1198667 16-Dec-2014 21:05
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We had a play with iCloud photo library at the weekend in preparation for moving our iPhoto library to iCloud. We have 200/200 Snap UFB. It was still very slow. We uploaded around 1000 images via the web uploader. This took 14 hours.

To make things worse when we checked in the morning iCloud had doubled and sometimes even tripled some pics. On top of that only 650 images sync'd back down to iOS devices. The rest did not. Metadata was also very wrong. Photos taken in Scotland 2007 showed up as Auckland 2013.

Apple have a serious amount of work to do on this before launch in my opinion.

As an all Apple household I want this to be the seamless solution Apple has promised and just work but I'm looking at other options for photos now. I just wouldn't trust Apple with a lifetime of pics at the moment.





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  Reply # 1198671 16-Dec-2014 21:11
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josephhinvest: Ooh lots of responses, thanks.

Attenuation? Will check but not sure which value is the important one.
Cloud storage, indeed. I will happily pay $5/month for Apple to store my photos and have them available on all my devices etc.
Yes uploading has always been very frustrating, even small movies to YouTube.
Not a fotog, just an early adopter of digital camera with thousands and thousands of family photos and videos.

Cheers!


From my router.

1 day, 22:55:43
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 933 / 8.132
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/GB]: 43,83 / 1,32
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,3 / 19,3
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 11,2 / 24,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 12,8 / 12,0


your vdsl upload will be about 4-5x what you have at the moment

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  Reply # 1198675 16-Dec-2014 21:15
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at 24dB its likely chorus will deny your vdsl line when they turn up.


Worth a shot though.




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  Reply # 1198688 16-Dec-2014 21:32
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I read on here recently they'll give anyone VDSL, no matter what their attenuation is.



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  Reply # 1198689 16-Dec-2014 21:36
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hio77: at 24dB its likely chorus will deny your vdsl line when they turn up.


Worth a shot though.


Hmm. Wait and see indeed. If not, then I'll be waiting til 2019 for UFB.

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  Reply # 1198710 16-Dec-2014 21:48
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Ruphus: I read on here recently they'll give anyone VDSL, no matter what their attenuation is.


officially the limit is 10.8dB as tested with their analyser, but it really depends on luck of the draw. 


They do quite often allow longer lines now it seems.




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