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lduncan
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  #92273 24-Oct-2007 18:53
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To be honest, I don't know. The last time I looked at the res independence stuff was back in Feb in Sydney at an Apple developer event. I haven't installed the latest and greatest beta's (preoccupied with other work), so I can't really answer your question anyway. The API's are there is about all i know.

As for iLife, I would have assumed much of '08 would have come bundled with Leopard? But iLife '06 should install fine on Leopard. 

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  #92324 24-Oct-2007 23:24
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Cheers lduncan...I guess we'll all find out in the next few days - can't wait!

(slightly off-topic but anyone know if the Airport extreme supports jumbo frames over it's gigabit ethernet?)



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  #93015 30-Oct-2007 09:23
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Anyone installed it yet....observations? (or should that be a new thread?)

Just wondering: if Mail.app now supports IMAP IDLE, does that mean it's effectively 'push' email and will check the server for new messages? - as long as your mail server supports it?



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#93039 30-Oct-2007 11:29

looking at the review from Ars Technica, it does say that RI isn't really present in the current release of Leopard but a possible feature addition in the near future.
been playing with leopard last couple of days.looks real nice but to be honest I don't think it was worth the money for just a few interface tweaks and TM (which has been marketed as a great feature while the functionality has been present in other OS's and provided by other softwares(somefree) for quite sometime).
consdiering the new Finder looks like iTunes, makes you wonder how much influence do the itunes guys have within apple now Surprised

spazz
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  #93236 31-Oct-2007 23:10
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er what the hell, Apple are the iTunes people.. :|

I love Leopard :D The few days I've had it my productivity and workflow has increased dramatically, and I don't even mean that in a business sense, I just find Quick Look and live previews and Stacks so beneficial when doing web stuff, photoshop etc.. My desktop is clean too! Time Machine is so much fun, I use it every day even when I'm not recovering files, it just looks so pretty ^_^

 - Safari 3 seems to render pages a lot more faithfully now, e.g. the login button on Facebook used to be a generic 'Aqua' button, now it's actually the proper blue Facebook button.

 - Sharing/Networking is child's play, and I mean it - my Mum could do this. And she can't even email. 

 - Spotlight is finally useable! So so quick.

 - The new screensaver is off the hook. Seeing is believing.




spazz
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  #93237 31-Oct-2007 23:16
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Can I just also say for the record, Time Machine is nothing like System Restore. Since viruses, spyware, and The Registry don't exist on OSX, nothing ever really "goes wrong", so there's no need to restore your entire machine to how it used to be before it broke. 

Time Machine is a file recovery tool - if you deleted a file a week ago and want it back - it's on Time Machine. 
If you had a file on your desktop a few days ago and now it's lost in the Documents folder, you can just zip "back in time" a few days and check out your desktop - there's the file!
If you're updating a file and you overwrite the version you preferred about an hour ago, the old version will be - you guessed it - on Time Machine.

Comprende?




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  #93668 4-Nov-2007 13:44
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nzbullet: Ok so Leopard is nice, has some great new features. One thing I should mention though. I got mine through MagnumMac, I wanted the family pack version as i have two Macs to upgrade, they only had single user versions in stock. THANK GOD I only bought the single user version! Lets just say Apple have created a $100 honesty box.

$199.00 Single Pack = as many users as you want (albeit illegally)
$299.00 Family Pack = as many users as you want (up to 5 legally)

So unless you want to add to Apples empire, by throwing them another 100 bucks, just get the single user version.


You do know that Apple are one of few software companies that provide software WITHOUT activation or serial codes. Practices like that, which can only be described as illegal and stupid, do nothing but encourage companies to invest in such schemes which are such an annoyance.





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#93669 4-Nov-2007 13:50
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nzbullet: Ok so Leopard is nice, has some great new features. One thing I should mention though. I got mine through MagnumMac, I wanted the family pack version as i have two Macs to upgrade, they only had single user versions in stock. THANK GOD I only bought the single user version! Lets just say Apple have created a $100 honesty box.

$199.00 Single Pack = as many users as you want (albeit illegally)
$299.00 Family Pack = as many users as you want (up to 5 legally)

So unless you want to add to Apples empire, by throwing them another 100 bucks, just get the single user version.


Encouraging piracy or copyright infringement is not allowed on Geekzone, this is a clear breach of the forum usage guidelines. Consider yourself warned, next up is a ban.

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  #93798 5-Nov-2007 15:47
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I'm gonna join in the public beating for nzbullet here:

You said it yourself: "$100 honesty box". Honesty being the key word.

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  #93905 6-Nov-2007 10:46
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spazz: Can I just also say for the record, Time Machine is nothing like System Restore. Since viruses, spyware, and The Registry don't exist on OSX, nothing ever really "goes wrong", so there's no need to restore your entire machine to how it used to be before it broke. 
 

agree however Vista does have a shadow copy of files to allow you to look back a a version of the file.  A subtle overlap in functionality with TM however different implementations and approach

 Time Machine is a file recovery tool - if you deleted a file a week ago and want it back - it's on Time Machine. 
If you had a file on your desktop a few days ago and now it's lost in the Documents folder, you can just zip "back in time" a few days and check out your desktop - there's the file!
If you're updating a file and you overwrite the version you preferred about an hour ago, the old version will be - you guessed it - on Time Machine.


Just ensure that you have your drive connected. As time machine is working on a remote drive it will not take a snapshot ever hour if not connected. Sounds obvious but somebody was debating that they were sure it kept a local copy until the drive was available.


Overall Leopard has been a great upgrade for us. Three different machines so the Family pack made great value.  First install had the Blue Screen of Death installation issue as the Application Enhancer was installed from the Logitech Control Centre (my MX Revolution mouse).  Archive & Install and Upgrade were smooth installs for the Macbook Pro and Macbook.  

Couple of hitches with Spotlight, not including contacts from addressbook, and the shares on the Power Mac G5 have caused it to hang (??), and Front Row not showing artwork from the shared library (although works on AppleTV).  

ps - nzbullet must take the prize for his open confession of theft/piracy!

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  #94672 11-Nov-2007 12:25
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Leopard is a little buggy for me. A few finder crashes so far. Flickr uploader doesn't work. Music stops playing when you leave frontrow...
Apart from that its insanely fast. Much snappier than Tiger. Its comparable to....*cough* xp when opening something.

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  #94992 13-Nov-2007 08:39
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Also having some small issues with Finder, however not a problem with flickr uploader. Are you using the standalone Flickr app or one of the plugins for iPhoto or Aperture?

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  #95034 13-Nov-2007 16:20
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I'm glad that Apple take the sensible approach to their licensing.

License keys and serial numbers are such a pain, I'm pleased Apple don't make me go through all that hassle!

I purchased a single license, because my ageing G3 won't run it, but if I had two macs to install it on I would definitely buy the family pack.

It's just a bit of a hunch, but for some reason I think there is probably more piracy per license of Windows than there is of OS X. *shrug*

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  #95095 14-Nov-2007 06:39
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Fossie: Leopard is a little buggy for me. A few finder crashes so far. Flickr uploader doesn't work. Music stops playing when you leave frontrow...
Apart from that its insanely fast. Much snappier than Tiger. Its comparable to....*cough* xp when opening something.

I used to have a Flickr account but found that it was so unreliable I went to Picasa, which actually works pretty well with leopard.

As for me, apart from Safari related bugs, and the ugly 3d dock (gone back to the 2d/glass one), I'm pretty happy. I find it funny when people slam 10.5 and seem to ignore the bugs in 10.3 and 10.4 - both of which were certainly not bug free.

Hopefully 10.5.1 will correct a good chunk of them soon though.

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