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Topic # 225701 1-Dec-2017 08:06
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Hey all,

 

 

 

I think this would have been covered before but, last night I was given the task of setting up my Grandparents new iMac.. Setup all OK, Got office 365 in it, going to do contacts and mail tonight. But I was asked a question, Well 2 questions:
"Are you good with Macs Tim?" No, but I'm good at using google.
"Do Macs require anti virus" Moment of silence. I'll come back to you on that.

Now for AV, What do you guys suggest? I would see something that keep them web safe fit for purpose like those green ticks on google results..

Does apple have their own security suite built in? I did enable the firewall in the settings on the Mac and it was disabled by default?!?

Any help appreciated.

Any good videos for them to watch on how to get used to it?

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  Reply # 1911424 1-Dec-2017 08:23
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I have used Macs for about 20 years and never used any sort of 'anti-virus'. However if your grandparents are a bit naïve then I would suggest that you ensure that they don't have the administrator password - this will prevent them from authorising the installation of any dubious software.


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  Reply # 1911434 1-Dec-2017 08:53
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I have ESET Endpoint AV on work Macbook. Never saw it detected anything, but it's company policy to have it installed.


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  Reply # 1911437 1-Dec-2017 09:01
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Eset NOD 32, Trend Micro, Sophos, F-Secure, Norton are all good AV's. Mac's need an AV just as much as any Windows machine. They are not immune.





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  Reply # 1911478 1-Dec-2017 09:37
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billgates:

 

Eset NOD 32, Trend Micro, Sophos, F-Secure, Norton are all good AV's. Mac's need an AV just as much as any Windows machine. They are not immune.

 

 

I tend to agree there with that comment. Always didn't see eye to eye with the ones that endlessly sung the praises of Mac's and filled plebeians heads with inaccurate info. Hence why I'm treading lightly and trying to be sure before we do anything.

Will look at Eset first as a family friend owns it here and should be able to get a deal.

He does have the admin password and the PC does ask for it quite often for some things so I think taking it off him wouldn't be useful but in general. I should just advise him if he is prompted for a password to not continue unless he is 100% sure. 

 

I made sure there are no payment details loaded in his Apple Acct. I did use correct address and name details however, As i suspect that will be required in the case the Mac locks itself as I've heard they are good at doing.

Does Location matter? Its a brand new 4k retina iMac 23" I5 with a 4GB 560 AMD card... They don't give you much more info than that.

 

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  Reply # 1911479 1-Dec-2017 09:37
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The first and best AV action on any Mac is to create a new admin account, and then downgrade the main user account to being a "user"

 

This will slow down the ability of any rouge programmes,toolbars, extensions etc to do any real damage to anything other than the active users account....

 

 


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  Reply # 1911484 1-Dec-2017 09:44
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+1 for Eset or Symantec 

 

 




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  Reply # 1911487 1-Dec-2017 09:46
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wellygary:

 

The first and best AV action on any Mac is to create a new admin account, and then downgrade the main user account to being a "user"

 

This will slow down the ability of any rouge programmes,toolbars, extensions etc to do any real damage to anything other than the active users account....

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will see if I can do that but there is only so much that can be done via Team Viewer.





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  Reply # 1911496 1-Dec-2017 10:03
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Coil:

 

He does have the admin password and the PC does ask for it quite often for some things so I think taking it off him wouldn't be useful but in general.

 

 

You need to find out why it is doing this. It is not normal in my experience.


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  Reply # 1911498 1-Dec-2017 10:04
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I'm using Bitdefender on my MacBook Pro. Works seamlessly. Has good reviews and tests - http://au.pcmag.com/bitdefender-antivirus-for-mac/6015/review/bitdefender-antivirus-for-mac

 

 





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  Reply # 1911543 1-Dec-2017 10:45
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alasta:

 

Coil:

 

He does have the admin password and the PC does ask for it quite often for some things so I think taking it off him wouldn't be useful but in general.

 

 

You need to find out why it is doing this. It is not normal in my experience.

 

 

 

 

Heya,

 


I was setting up mail and installed the likes of MS Office.
I'd suspect due to that. I will ask him tonight if it always asks him for a password. But he hasn't even used it before I helped him set it up.

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  Reply # 1911549 1-Dec-2017 10:51
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I don't use it on my Mac anymore because I'm only really using it for web and a couple of reputible applications; if they like to download stuff from places other than the App Store then probably worth looking at but if they're just using the App Store (which I believe may be the default setting to only allow applications from the app store) and know not to download any 'Flash Player Updates' which random websites might be offering them, then might be OK without it!

 

 




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  Reply # 1911562 1-Dec-2017 11:08
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I don't use it on my Mac anymore because I'm only really using it for web and a couple of reputible applications; if they like to download stuff from places other than the App Store then probably worth looking at but if they're just using the App Store (which I believe may be the default setting to only allow applications from the app store) and know not to download any 'Flash Player Updates' which random websites might be offering them, then might be OK without it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not gonna install Flash or Java, Not required for him. Not sure if it comes with those apps anyhow.

 

He is email and web only, Won't be downloading anything. Only issue I'd see is the emails he receives from friends with endless pictures and stuff in them if one of his mates were to be infected? Would we need to worry in that regard?

He has been pretty good with his old PC. Actually taught me as a 5 yr old on wards about computers. Pretty sure it is clean but he did have an issue where it "crashed" (By him being impatient when it had finished updating but it was still running and the screen was black he powered it off) and he lost about 4-6 months back of data on his drive. 

We have data up till July roughly in the appdata local folder and there is a massive gap in history, Same with restore points nothing past July. Hence why he bought a Mac due to their reputation as stated prior.. Any way to retreive this data?

Cheers

Tim

 

 

 

Edit* After PST files and contacts. 





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  Reply # 1911652 1-Dec-2017 12:15
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I am currently using Norton Security Premium on my Mac, which seems to work well. While Macs have a reputation as being immune to viruses, their upsurge in popularity has proven this is be false.

 

You can get the Norton Security Premium for $28 at PB tech by following this guide and using PBSUMMER promo code for free shipping, which is quite a steal considering that it normally costs 4x that at Noel Leeming. The Mac version below is the exact same as the "full" version, without the cloud storage, and works on three devices including Windows as well.

 

As for some guides on using Mac I suggest you point them to this page on the Apple Website, great place to get started. Give them a link to the Apple Support chat as well, they are very happy to help with small questions etc in my experience.

 

 


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  Reply # 1911654 1-Dec-2017 12:19
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I use Sophos Home edition on all my Macs. It's free for up to 10 devices from memory.

 

Also can't understand people who don't run AV on Macs. Doesn't cost anything so better to have it than not I say.





 

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