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  Reply # 1911658 1-Dec-2017 12:26
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I'm not running any AV software on my Macs. Last time I had AV software I used Avast (it's free) and it seemed to do a good job.


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  Reply # 1911685 1-Dec-2017 13:35
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Re buying AV online , or renewing

 

for some AV companies, once they have your CC details , they will autocharge you every year, regardless .
It will be hidden in the fine print, and they dont make it easy to get those CC autocharging stopped

2 of the more famous AV companies were fined in the US for doing this .
Its dodgy bussness practise, some of the AV companies are now acting little better than the malware the  protect against
Scareware tactics (lies) & popups to try & upsell to more expensive addons. Addons that are pretty much worthless

 

Eset Nod32 : honest .Reliable software (on PC). Id recommend them above all others. Not a 100% detect or clean rate, but none are .

 

Some of the others mentioned above: dodgy practices .Just bad . Getting worse. All about the $ , not about the security.
When you resort to tricking less than savvy users into paying for "free" products.......

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1911695 1-Dec-2017 13:56
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I just started using Malwarebytes for my Macs.





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  Reply # 1911713 1-Dec-2017 14:54
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I don't use any AV on my Macs and it has served me well for 15+ years. The security model on the Mac is robust enough that it's very difficult to find a exploit that is actually usable. For example just downloading an App is not enough, it must be digitally signed and verified. Apps that are not require manual intervention by the admin in order to run which is a very useful line of defense. I won't go on and on but there is a lot of line of defenses which make it a reasonably secure system particularly for naive users.

 

Then again I don't bother with third party AV on any platform and only use the built-in AV on Windows. Too many computer faults I see in friends/family are caused by third party AV software interfering with things they shoudn't be interfering with. I have been surprised at how many faults I've resolved just by switching to Microsoft's built-in security software on Windows (which is actually very good considering it works without slowing down the computer while other AV I've observed are no more effective but cause major issues) and just removing security rubbish altogether on other platforms.

 

Another concern I have about AV is the exploits made possible because of AV software. It's always worth keeping in mind AV opens up other sort of exploits as they require direct access to the OS. Some AV exploits have taken advantage of AV vendors sloppy coding to break through the AV itself into the OS internals giving a free reign to everything the AV scanner has access to. This has happened with all the major AV vendors so I no longer trust any of them.

 

YMMV of course.




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Good points there Kiwi Surfer. Ill look at a chrome extension to keep him netsafe and leave it at that. I agree with what you said regarding AV programs just being another back door and how they meddle with things that cause the PC to slow down. Another family member I helped with installed Eset endpoint and started complaining how webpages took ages to load, formatting way way out, emails were delayed. Turned the settings on it down a little bit and hardly any difference. uninstalled and its flying without any drama.

I'll see how he tracks over the enxt few days, anyone aware of a good chrome plugin for filtering google etc?

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  Reply # 1911872 2-Dec-2017 07:28
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Tockly:

I use Sophos Home edition on all my Macs. It's free for up to 10 devices from memory.


Also can't understand people who don't run AV on Macs. Doesn't cost anything so better to have it than not I say.


I will second that. Sophos home works quite well and macs are definitely not immune from modern attacks

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  Reply # 1912102 2-Dec-2017 21:07
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I have used Macs since the Mac 512KE.

 

I have NEVER used an AV product on any of my machines (and I currently have 5 Macs including 2 OSX Mac Mini servers)

 

Some years back the biggest vulnerability for OSX was actually Symantec Anti-virus.

 

I regularly hook up other Macs to my laptop when they are in Target mode with ZERO issues.

 

I also regularly go to phishing scam sites (they are often just redirects to the real scam site) so I can get the end URL and list them with phish tank, google anti-phish and mywot.com.

 

 

 

I consider AV products as no better than extended warranties.

 

 


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