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  Reply # 474515 26-May-2011 18:16
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freitasm: No, it's not. But Mac OS X marketshare has been growing at a much faster pace now, so it's more likely if affects a large number of users.


I don't think OS X is growing particularly quickly, at least relative to the rest of the computer OS market. Apple had a 4.84% worldwide market share in April 2009 and that had increased to 5.0% in April this year. That's not to say that Apple's not selling a lot of PCs, because they obviously are. It's just not growing at the rate the tech media seems to believe.

The numbers are out there to show the real state of affairs from research companies like IDG and Gartner but for whatever reason, a number of pundits like to pump Apple's sales performance irrespective of the reality.

(I note that recently, some well-known Apple-friendly bloggers have taken to including iPads and iPod Touches in their tally to make the Apple computer total look better. As long as they don't double-dip by including those same iPods and iPads in their mobile device tally as well. :D )

My theory, for what it's worth, is that Apple's market share has grown significantly in the well-to-do nations (while dropping in the poorer nations) and that more affluent skew has become a somewhat more tempting target for the unscrupulous.

I have a feeling that those with a rational mindset will agree that there's worse to come, no matter what Apple does to try and stem it. The fact that the techniques being used today could have been used from the very beginnings of OS X shows clearly that the OS has never deserved the rep it's enjoyed that it was somehow more secure through design. Obscurity, much poo-poohed by the Apple fans though it was, seems now to have been a significant reason for the rarity of such malware attacks.

Time to tighten down my Macs' security, I think.

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codyc1515:
Do you think it would be good to only allow pre-approved apps?


It might make the attacks more difficult, but you'd need Apple to thoroughly test every app submitted, something it pretended to do for the iOS app store, but has recently admitted in front of a Senate hearing is an impossibility. So pre-approval is a placebo of sorts, like Air Marshalls on flights, which makes travellers feel better but doesn't seem able to prevent people blowing their underwear to smithereens. :D

I guess some folk will argue that some app auditing is better than none, but the truly ingenious malware writers won't be stopped. It's something that we Mac users will now have to live with, IMHO.

Interesting times.

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  Reply # 475507 29-May-2011 18:46
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ArtooDetoo:
I have a feeling that those with a rational mindset will agree that there's worse to come, no matter what Apple does to try and stem it. The fact that the techniques being used today could have been used from the very beginnings of OS X shows clearly that the OS has never deserved the rep it's enjoyed that it was somehow more secure through design. Obscurity, much poo-poohed by the Apple fans though it was, seems now to have been a significant reason for the rarity of such malware attacks.

Time to tighten down my Macs' security, I think.

Cheers,
R2D2


The technique being social engineering: conning the unsuspecting user into believing their computer is infected and needs the 'Mac Defender' software to remedy the situation.

I don't know how you expect Mac OS X or any common OS to defend against social engineering. 

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The technique being social engineering: conning the unsuspecting user into believing their computer is infected and needs the 'Mac Defender' software to remedy the situation.

I don't know how you expect Mac OS X or any common OS to defend against social engineering. 


Did I say anywhere that I expect that? (Hint... no, I didn't).

The point is that OS X has had a reputation for being more secure by design, when (as you point out yourself), it isn't. What has happened is that OS X is now a juicy enough target to attract the kind of malware we're seeing, and will undoubtedly see more of.

The fact that the malware uses social engineering doesn't make it any less a threat. So if you have a point other than to agree with me that OS X is just as vulnerable as any "common OS", then feel free to make it.

But I'd prefer you didn't ascribe to me things I haven't written.

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ArtooDetoo:
pknz:


The technique being social engineering: conning the unsuspecting user into believing their computer is infected and needs the 'Mac Defender' software to remedy the situation.

I don't know how you expect Mac OS X or any common OS to defend against social engineering. 


Did I say anywhere that I expect that? (Hint... no, I didn't).

The point is that OS X has had a reputation for being more secure by design, when (as you point out yourself), it isn't. What has happened is that OS X is now a juicy enough target to attract the kind of malware we're seeing, and will undoubtedly see more of.

The fact that the malware uses social engineering doesn't make it any less a threat. So if you have a point other than to agree with me that OS X is just as vulnerable as any "common OS", then feel free to make it.

But I'd prefer you didn't ascribe to me things I haven't written.

Cheers,
R2D2


Irony.

 

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pknz:

Irony.

 


"I don't know how you expect Mac OS X or any common OS to defend against social engineering."

Irony indeed.




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