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  Reply # 673559 17-Aug-2012 07:49
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Zeon: Ban Taxis = destroy obesity epidemic?


Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?


Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km. What is that they say about assumptions ?




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jonb:
Zeon: Ban Taxis = destroy obesity epidemic?
 
Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?
 
Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km. What is that they say about assumptions ?

Would it be fair to say that most people that catch taxis 1.5km could probably walk it?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 673626 17-Aug-2012 10:39
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jonb:
Zeon: Ban Taxis = destroy obesity epidemic?
 
Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?
 
Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km. What is that they say about assumptions ?

Would it be fair to say that most people that catch taxis 1.5km could probably walk it?


That is not my point




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  Reply # 673635 17-Aug-2012 10:59
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KiwiNZ:
jonb: 
Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?
 
Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km. What is that they say about assumptions ?


"Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km" in this sentence is sarcasm. Reading the next sentence gives it away.

bazzer: Would it be fair to say that most people that catch taxis 1.5km could probably walk it?


*Most* being the keyword. Not everyone.





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KiwiNZ:
jonb: 
Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?
 
Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km. What is that they say about assumptions ?
 
"Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km" in this sentence is sarcasm. Reading the next sentence gives it away. 

Not sure who this is directed at? Just clearing things up for everyone reading this? It's pretty obviously sarcasm.

freitasm:
bazzer: Would it be fair to say that most people that catch taxis 1.5km could probably walk it?
 
*Most* being the keyword. Not everyone

I'd already seen that thread, so I was well aware that KiwiNZ might not be able to walk the 1km-1.5km. It doesn't change my response.

The main thrust of the discussion at that point was that a lot of people seemed to be catching taxis short distances when they probably (given my suggested clarification to "most") didn't need to be. Zeon proposed, tongue in cheek I suggest, that banning taxis and making people walk these short distances could cure NZ's obesity epidemic.

Given KiwiNZ's disability, he took this personally and came back with a sarcastic response. I simply wanted clarification on what level of generalisation/hyperbole was acceptable to him. While I am sympathetic to his situation, the fact remains that a lot of people would be a lot better off if they walked every now and again (as is being suggested here). 

If any of networkn, nate or almaznz are incapable of walking 1.5km due to a disability (being unfit/lazy is not really a disability) then I would recant my statement. Otherwise, it would seem KiwiNZ is being a bit precious.



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  Reply # 673700 17-Aug-2012 14:23
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bazzer: Actually I don't agree, there are many legitimate reasons that a fit able person may opt not to to walk a relatively short distance on a cold cold Friday late at night.

Back to the original question, posted by me, NO that was not a reasonable fare charged by said Cab company and since then another 10-12 people have complained in a public forum about them.

Anyways, asked and answered, I think the thread should be locked before it turns into something it shouldn't.

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  Reply # 673707 17-Aug-2012 14:39
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networkn: bazzer: Actually I don't agree, there are many legitimate reasons that a fit able person may opt not to to walk a relatively short distance on a cold cold Friday late at night.

Which part don't you agree with? Could you not have walked?

Anyway, I've got no problem with people choosing to catch taxis short distances, that's why we live in a free world. I also have no idea if you exercise or not, nor do I care, again it's your choice. But, generally speaking, walking 1.5km instead of catching a $12 taxi is better for you.
 
networkn:Back to the original question, posted by me, NO that was not a reasonable fare charged by said Cab company and since then another 10-12 people have complained in a public forum about them.

Anyways, asked and answered, I think the thread should be locked before it turns into something it shouldn't.

What would you consider reasonable? 10-12 people doesn't seem like very many. I would probably budget $10 if I were going to take that trip (which I wouldn't, I'd walk... Tongue Out). johnr seems pretty happy paying $12-$13 for the same trip.

I'm actually interested in the outcome here. Which taxi company did you use? What tariff did they charge? How did they rip you off? What would another taxi have cost you?

Without those answers, you may as well lock this thread because it's a bit pointless otherwise.

Edit: You think you got ripped off? What about this guy!



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  Reply # 673710 17-Aug-2012 14:44
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bazzer: go backward you'll see what about cab company charged me for the exact same trip yesterday, $6.40 which I rounded up to $7. I can't recall the name of the original company but last night by co-incidence I caught "cheap cabs", the company I went with first was a similarly named cheaper company. Hardly corporate cabs!

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networkn: bazzer: go backward you'll see what about cab company charged me for the exact same trip yesterday, $6.40 which I rounded up to $7. I can't recall the name of the original company but last night by co-incidence I caught "cheap cabs", the company I went with first was a similarly named cheaper company. Hardly corporate cabs!

Was it "exactly" the same trip? Did it take the same time? With a waiting time of $1/min, it only takes a 5 minute delay on a busy night to add $5 to the fare.

I've also found cheap cabs to be the cheapest, so taking that into account, what would you expect of a more expensive company for the same trip, $9? The difference between $9 and $12 is within the bounds of "reasonable", I'd have thought. $12 seems like a bit of a ripoff, but it's still "reasonable" imo. That amounts to perhaps missing all the lights compared to making them all. Without definite tariff comparisons and times it's all speculation.



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  Reply # 673715 17-Aug-2012 15:05
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bazzer: I am not sure what you want me to say, obviously being of above average intelligence I tried to compare them as closely as I could. This guy didn't end up with quite as many lights, but the first trip wasn't terrible for it anyway. He drove at 30km an hour despite clear traffic and slowed down HOPING for the lights to change, $6 to $12 is a big difference IN MY OPINION. I personally would consider $6-9 reasonable for a reasonable cheap taxi company. I don't recall the company I used the first time, but it was one of the worst cabs I'd been in in NZ, so I presume it would not normally have been a corporate cab type cab company.

Hopefully this supplies you with enough information!

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  Reply # 673738 17-Aug-2012 15:52
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freitasm:
KiwiNZ:
jonb: 
Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?
 
Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km. What is that they say about assumptions ?
 
"Of course everyone is capable of walking 1.5km" in this sentence is sarcasm. Reading the next sentence gives it away. 

Not sure who this is directed at? Just clearing things up for everyone reading this? It's pretty obviously sarcasm.

freitasm:
bazzer: Would it be fair to say that most people that catch taxis 1.5km could probably walk it?
 
*Most* being the keyword. Not everyone

I'd already seen that thread, so I was well aware that KiwiNZ might not be able to walk the 1km-1.5km. It doesn't change my response.

The main thrust of the discussion at that point was that a lot of people seemed to be catching taxis short distances when they probably (given my suggested clarification to "most") didn't need to be. Zeon proposed, tongue in cheek I suggest, that banning taxis and making people walk these short distances could cure NZ's obesity epidemic.

Given KiwiNZ's disability, he took this personally and came back with a sarcastic response. I simply wanted clarification on what level of generalisation/hyperbole was acceptable to him. While I am sympathetic to his situation, the fact remains that a lot of people would be a lot better off if they walked every now and again (as is being suggested here). 

If any of networkn, nate or almaznz are incapable of walking 1.5km due to a disability (being unfit/lazy is not really a disability) then I would recant my statement. Otherwise, it would seem KiwiNZ is being a bit precious.


I retorted with I admit a degree of sarcasm due to two post where assumptions are made they are,

"Zeon: Ban Taxis = destroy obesity epidemic?"  and "Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?"

My sarcasm was born from frustration and the inferred reasons why people will use Taxi's as opposed to walking. Prejudice takes many forms.

I apologise if anyone took offense, all I ask is for thought before assumption.  



















 





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  Reply # 673766 17-Aug-2012 17:24
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what an interesting read. :)

In general, I find the rates unacceptable in NZ at whatever the cost considering you could get a taxi from Orchard Road to Changi Intl Airport for about 22 dollars - about the same distance from Auckland to Manukau.

But I still use them for convenience and of the times I did require one, I don't recall complaining about the fare.


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  Reply # 674374 19-Aug-2012 20:28
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networkn:

Anyway I emailed the company, not expecting much, won't use them again. Problem is that it's "bad manners" to not take the first taxi in the rank.


Stuff bad manners, its economically stupid not to take the best deal on the rank.

I wont take any taxis that have something in their name to do with being cheap, usually go for the coops if I have to rank it.




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networkn: bazzer: I am not sure what you want me to say, obviously being of above average intelligence I tried to compare them as closely as I could. This guy didn't end up with quite as many lights, but the first trip wasn't terrible for it anyway. He drove at 30km an hour despite clear traffic and slowed down HOPING for the lights to change, $6 to $12 is a big difference IN MY OPINION. I personally would consider $6-9 reasonable for a reasonable cheap taxi company. I don't recall the company I used the first time, but it was one of the worst cabs I'd been in in NZ, so I presume it would not normally have been a corporate cab type cab company.

Hopefully this supplies you with enough information!

:) I'm just genuinely interested. I always figured some cabs are cheaper but $6 to $12 is a big difference and I wonder where that difference came from, that's all. When I say $12 is "reasonable" it's not compared to $6, I guess. But if $9 were average and $6 was a cheap fare then $12 would be expensive but could still be on the reasonable side, especially if there were lots of stops. I tried to find some tariffs online, but most taxis don't seem to post them. Would the first company really be 2x the cheap one or did they do something to purposely rip you off?

KiwiNZ: I retorted with I admit a degree of sarcasm due to two post where assumptions are made they are,

"Zeon: Ban Taxis = destroy obesity epidemic?"  and "Agree. The the idea of getting a taxi for a 1km walk wouldn't even be in my mental list of options - are you people all rolling in spare cash?"

My sarcasm was born from frustration and the inferred reasons why people will use Taxi's as opposed to walking. Prejudice takes many forms.

I apologise if anyone took offense, all I ask is for thought before assumption.

I also apologise if my response came across as flippant or uncaring about your situation. Of course there are many reasons why people catch taxis, laziness is just one! ;) Some people have no choice and I don't think many would begrudge that.



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  Reply # 845834 27-Jun-2013 00:39
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Well I thought I'd update this thread, old as it was. I never heard back from the company who were investigating, but today I made the same trip both too and from the same location on Queen St. Down in a Co-OP taxi cost $8.40 and back in some other brand of taxi I did not note cost $7.60. Much more appropriate.

Before anyone whines about me catching a taxi instead of walking, I had just played 2 hours of Squash!

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