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  # 648100 29-Jun-2012 11:42
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@Trinklet

Email what you wrote to Paula Bennett let her know about it just Google New Zealand MP email contacts or go to the govt website and find her contact details or even better send it to labour MP who's in charge of Welfare I think its Jacinda, they love to know what fails. You will get a reply back and they will keep in contact with you.




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  # 648136 29-Jun-2012 12:23
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Trinket: ... is this Nationals way of improving work opportunities? 

... National, wake up, your missing some poignant and important aspects of this countries lower economic condition.


You're clearly not a National fan, and fair enough, but do you really think the Government get's involved down to this detail? More likely it was someone running the seminar's call. Maybe they are on a power trip, maybe they are just not a nice person, maybe they are an idiot, but suggesting that level of detail is a government directive is quite a leap.

Disclaimer: I am NOT a National voter

Trinket: How funny, even people on a government benefit get taxed. Fractional reserve banking systems anyone?

Yes, lets enslave the world in debt.


Do you actually understand what fractional reserve banking (FRB) is? Taxing transfer payments has absolutely NOTHING to do with FRB.

I'm also not sure how you draw the line between FRB and 'enslaving the world in debt'. There is a loose relationship between the two, but not a direct correlation.

The welfare system in this country is broken. It's inefficient and it doesn't do enough to help those who really need it - but it's a problem that has been growing for decades, not as the result of a single government. Welfare reform in New Zealand must happen, but it's an incredibly complex issue and very hard to get right.





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  # 648164 29-Jun-2012 12:59
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  # 648207 29-Jun-2012 14:00
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Yeah, I should not lump one party as being responsible when such social issues are brought about by many factors. Hmm, much to consider.. Embarassed

My comment on frb systems was not tied together with my comment about the ub being taxed, excuse the confusion there. As I understood it the world does operate on a debt based monetary system. I am open to reading more on this.

@ ajobbins - A complex issue indeed

Good perspectives here, helps to shape my thinking on matters.

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  # 648530 29-Jun-2012 23:52
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omg, that is bull. their systems and their dept need to be sacked and replaced with something that works, I turned up to a seminar even though i was still under a contracted service, even though i explained twice about it, i went anyway, but felt a rather waste of time. Not that it may have not been a waste, but they didn't fully read my file which if someone was doing their job, could of opened a space for someone else who needs it.

I feel bad for that guy, it's completely unfair and i hope winz dont work test him because of it. Even after explaining the situation.

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  # 648537 30-Jun-2012 00:50
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The actions of this WINZ department - and any like it - are an embarrassment to this entire country. This is what happens when you demonize and vilify a minority for decades. It becomes 'ok' to treat them in inhumane, arbitrary ways.

You watch: someone will say "he should have been on time, serves him right".

....

I enjoy reading these WINZ threads. It really is instructive: all these employed people displaying a level of ignorance that is a marvel to behold.

Again and again I see the same error: "How do we make these lazy dole bludgers work?" seems to sum it up. Well, the solution is very, very simple.


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