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cep32: My understanding is that the sign in this case is purely a guide sign (see http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/motsam/part-1/motsam-1.html) and has no regulatory function at all. As a result the road markings and general road rules perform the regulatory function. As there were no lane markings heading round the corner from Kilmore into Montreal then you were not changing lanes and in fact is was reasonable for you to expect to be able to go straight through. I would even argue that the driver of the bus could more reasonably be considered the one that was changing lanes and therefore he needed to indicate for 3 seconds prior to the lane change and give way to everyone else in the lane (ie where you were).
Even in the Google maps aerial that shows the lane markings the above argument holds in my opinion.
At the very least I don't think you are responsible for the costs associated with repairing the bus.
TheUngeek: Have driven that road many times. It's no where near as confusing as a lot of you are making out. It is quite clearly marked IRL
oxnsox: OP did not approach from Kilmore, therefore any reference to lane markings in a street he wasn't on are irrelevant to his issue. If I was intending to travel straight ahead as the OP was, once I rounded the corner, the road layout says that being in the right lane would be wrong on a one way street. If I had just past a bus coming thru the intersection, experience tells me to be aware that it's still to my left, and that it'll probably follow the main route.
mattwnz: I just wonder why there aren't better road markings at that turn. It should have arrows and the right lane should have a curved lane line showing that you must turn right I think. I believe under the road rules that traffic going straight on would have right of way over traffic turning anyway, especially traffic going straight on to the right of the turning vehicle, as traffic ont eh right side should have right of way anyway.
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KevinL:mattwnz: I just wonder why there aren't better road markings at that turn. It should have arrows and the right lane should have a curved lane line showing that you must turn right I think. I believe under the road rules that traffic going straight on would have right of way over traffic turning anyway, especially traffic going straight on to the right of the turning vehicle, as traffic ont eh right side should have right of way anyway.
It -is- marked: road markings here?http://goo.gl/maps/ofQw6 and sign here?http://goo.gl/maps/eDQFX ?
There are no markings at the next intersection, because the rules depend on how you enter the intersection (much like there are no road markings for a dual-laned roundabout on the actual roundabout but on the approach).
The vehicle on the right doesn't have right of way as it's effectively a right-turn only lane. ?Topographically, it's the same as two cars entering a dual-laned roundabout, and the car on the right trying to exit left onto the first exit - it doesn't work.
coffeebaron: There are two big clearly marked green signs on the approach to this intersection. Definitely very clear cut OP was in the wrong.
mattwnz:KevinL: It -is- marked: road markings here?http://goo.gl/maps/ofQw6 and sign here?http://goo.gl/maps/eDQFX ?
There are no markings at the next intersection, because the rules depend on how you enter the intersection (much like there are no road markings for a dual-laned roundabout on the actual roundabout but on the approach).
The vehicle on the right doesn't have right of way as it's effectively a right-turn only lane. ?Topographically, it's the same as two cars entering a dual-laned roundabout, and the car on the right trying to exit left onto the first exit - it doesn't work.
Yes but that is the problem intersection that doesn't have the markings. Normally there would be curved lane lines showing you must turn or at the least arrows on the road at that intersection.
I get your point that the markings would depend on which way you were approaching, so not easy to do, but that isn't good road design, as it relies on peoples memory from 10 metres up the road ( which could be some time if it is busy and gridlocked), and if it is busy you may not even see the road markings.
mattwnz:coffeebaron: There are two big clearly marked green signs on the approach to this intersection. Definitely very clear cut OP was in the wrong.
I can see those signs now, but they are not exactly accurate, as they show it to be a smooth curve. But the actual intersection appears to be 2 x 90 degree turns.
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