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  # 684558 11-Sep-2012 18:45
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gzt: ?Some legs be quite long and it would be madness to apply this one way scheme to them without a free left and island system.


I can understand that this road is being treated as a 'dogleg' with the green sign at the first intersection. But from google streetview, it look more like two right angled interesections, and if you are approaching it from the other direction it is treated like two intersections, rather than a dogleg. If it barks like a dog and looks like a dog, I think it is a dog.

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  # 684561 11-Sep-2012 18:49
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mattwnz:
gzt: ?Some legs be quite long and it would be madness to apply this one way scheme to them without a free left and island system.


I can understand that this road is being treated as a 'dogleg' with the green sign at the first intersection. But from google streetview, it look more like two right angled interesections, and if you are approaching it from the other direction it is treated like two intersections, rather than a dogleg. If it barks like a dog and looks like a dog, I think it is a dog.


For what it's worth, if you look at the google maps satellite view (http://goo.gl/maps/P35KV) you can see how the approach from Cranmer Square and the exit onto Montreal street are angled and not at 90 degrees.  I mean, it's still a poor design, but they've clearly thought about it...

Edit - here's the intersection, rotated to make the starting position on Cranmer Square horizontal:


 
 
 
 


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  # 684564 11-Sep-2012 18:59
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KevinL:
mattwnz:
gzt: ?Some legs be quite long and it would be madness to apply this one way scheme to them without a free left and island system.


I can understand that this road is being treated as a 'dogleg' with the green sign at the first intersection. But from google streetview, it look more like two right angled interesections, and if you are approaching it from the other direction it is treated like two intersections, rather than a dogleg. If it barks like a dog and looks like a dog, I think it is a dog.


For what it's worth, if you look at the google maps satellite view (http://goo.gl/maps/P35KV) you can see how the approach from Cranmer Square and the exit onto Montreal street are angled and not at 90 degrees. ?I mean, it's still a poor design, but they've clearly thought about it...


I can sort of see what you mean, where they have shapped the paint on the road to creates a sort of dog leg, but there is still quite a big gap of about 20 metres between curves. Reallt that should be a lot less for it to be a real dog leg. Also that photo is more telling when it comes to presuming that they can actually go straight on if they are in the right lane, as it is double laned everywhere for a one way road,

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  # 684576 11-Sep-2012 19:30
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People are still forgetting all the road signs... They start a long way before you get to the complex ;)



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  # 684587 11-Sep-2012 20:18
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Nice screenshot! A few more embeds would have made this more interesting. Anyone without Flash (Adobe Flash is not on my system + safari in use) will see this as a map. Anyone with Flash should see the intersection and be able to follow the path of the Google car.



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  # 684589 11-Sep-2012 20:31
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The Green road signs, there are 3 of them along the road, all clearly show the dog leg and all state the right lane must follow the dog leg.

I drove along this route on Montreal St. today.

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  # 684610 11-Sep-2012 21:11
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I see only two signs on streetview. The one at the lights and this one:



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  # 684617 11-Sep-2012 21:29
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Then I'd suggest you go for a drive

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  # 686276 15-Sep-2012 00:42
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at first i had no idea what you were talking about, then i see the pictures, and i'm like i used to live on kilmore street. duh!

basically with that intersection you're screwed if you want to turn into kilmore street. it's like a "bypass kilmore street" intersection where people often don't stay in their lane properly.

i think it's the bus driver's fault for not paying enough attention. but basically don't turn onto kilmore street from there.

talking about bad roads. why can't you turn right from carlton gore rd. and how confusing is it going down by the river then remembering that you want to go until the "second to last street" then follow it along then turn right to actually get through the city of which you haev to do because you can't turn right off carlton gore rd, and you can't do you turn easily down bealey ave, and fitzgerald ave is like the ghetto of chch.




i do think you're probably in the wrong. but you really have to drive defensively in NZ.

just today i was in a 70k area and there was a line of cars coming the other way. then like the one in the middle served into the middle of the road on my side of the road where i had nowhere to go.

then i realised there was YET ANOTHER CYCLIST in a 70k area, on a narrow street way too close to the middle of the road.

the thing is the cars before him and after him weren't in my lane just him. it was a very dangerous place to pass and he wouldn't have been able to. but he had to take evasive action because of the cyclist.

that said, every time i see car head lights on i remember to stay extra alert for stupid cyclists.

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