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# 1298500 5-May-2015 16:42
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is the multiple parcel discount no longer available for USA youshop?

I have 4 parcels and I waite to get them all so I can get the discount :(

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  # 1298521 5-May-2015 17:06
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Nope, it went when they introduced consolidation.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1298555 5-May-2015 18:41
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If you have 4 parcels going to the same location then consolidation should nearly always be cheaper than the multi parcel discount anyway. Exceptions would be if you hit the weight or size limit or some value threshold. Mind you on the later point, even if you have to pay the $6 extra for parcel valued over $250 it may sometimes be cheaper with 4 parcels to use consolidation compared to the multiple parcel discount (but not always).

Only other thing is you will probably be hit taxes if you are over the $60 tax limit whereas I believe with multiple parcels even though NZ Customs say they will take multiple parcels going to the same destination as one when it comes to assessing whether to pursue tax, they often didn't.

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  # 1298624 5-May-2015 20:28
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okay I am confused as to how this consolidation works

for example f I have these:

parcel 1 $200
parcel 2 $180
parcel 3 $176
parcel 4 $150
and if i consolidate i save a certain amount but the parcel value goes up to $706

which means I will be paying duty right?

and if i ship these boxes separately then i may not as each box value is below the customs threshold?

if thats how it works then consolidation doesnt work for someone like me.

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  # 1298625 5-May-2015 20:35
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Yes, most likely. If you send them separately but on the same day (or even within a few days of each other) customs will likely pick that up and charge you duty as well - they did for me once. I leave a week between packages coming into NZ if I want to avoid duty.

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  # 1298626 5-May-2015 20:38
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Sigh why is it so difficult to find a good company I mean you shop was working well but they should have kept the multi parcel discount available to those who can't use the parcel consolidation

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  # 1298627 5-May-2015 20:39
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Sigh why is it so difficult to find a good company I mean you shop was working well but they should have kept the multi parcel discount available to those who can't use the parcel consolidation

 
 
 
 


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  # 1298670 5-May-2015 21:47
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timmmay: Yes, most likely. If you send them separately but on the same day (or even within a few days of each other) customs will likely pick that up and charge you duty as well - they did for me once. I leave a week between packages coming into NZ if I want to avoid duty.


If they do pick it up then there's no difference between consolidation and the multi parcel discount for cmys001 unless they have multiple addresses (and names?) they can use. I had heard they often don't, but it's not something I really looked in to. From a pure cost POV, it seems better for cmys001 to simply send them all seperately rather than consolidation considering the risk of being taxed (which will probably be more than any amount saved from the MPD or consolidation).

However if they are sending to the same address, considering the risk even if indeterminate isn't zero, using the multi parcel discount if it still existed would I suspect be a bad idea from a cost POV too. Is saving $18 really risk of having to pay $140+? Probably not. (Although admitedly personally I'd much prefer to pay $18 GST than $18 extra to Youshop or some other company, even a SOE but that isn't an option.)

So the only real loss to cmys001 would be if they can combine the lower value parcels, which they may be able to depending on how much shipping costs and whether there's any duty in addition to GST. Since with 2 parcels, consolidation is often more (even more likely is the value is over NZD$250).

Mind you, as much as I'm annoyed by the loss of the MPD, I don't think it was ever intended as anything but a stopgap measure. It never made much sense from a Youshop POV, particularly in cases where its loss is felt the most i.e. different warehouses or different destinations or both since they couldn't have been saving much.

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  # 1299402 6-May-2015 20:18
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Item arrived yesterday morning into auckland, promptly went through customs and then nothing, still sitting in auckland "Sorted at Auckland depot". It crossed the pacific in less time, not sure why it hasn't moved for the last 40 odd hours.

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  # 1299405 6-May-2015 20:20
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NZ post tracking isnt all that good. I have had things at the post office for pickup that were still showing as at customs.




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  # 1301516 10-May-2015 17:32
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Consolidation etc. Is there any maximum hold time while all intended shipment items arrive at the US warehouse side?

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  # 1301663 11-May-2015 05:36
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The maximum time is 21 days per parcel. You should be able to see this time once you've completed all the details for each parcel including delivery, except payment.

You can ask them to increase the time but it doesn't sound like they currently have a clear policy on increasing it even when you're planning on consolidating. I think they're likely to give you an extension for a parcel or two. But if you keep asking they could refuse.

If you do ask, make sure they fix the right parcel since in my case they fixed the wrong one even though I gave them the right number and this one was expiring sooner! (Possibly they got confused because one parcel had already been extended, which they extended again.) Also it looks to me like the extension (14 days seems standard) happens from when they extend, not from the  current final date. So you probably want to leave it to near the end, after you get the final reminder when there are 5 days left.

Note that when you consolidate, you do get a new date for the combined parcel. It looks to me like you can remove items you've consolidated until you pay, as it's just virtual. You also may be able to just consolidate a consolidated parcel with new parcels too, but I haven't tried this myself. (If you have 3 parcels waiting at the same warehouse, you can try it yourself and come and tell us.) So you may be able to use this to extend the date without asking.

However I can't guarantee they aren't going to throw away your parcels just because you have a new date for the consolidated parcel. (The individual parcels still have their own dates, which will reappear if you split them up. And you'll also still get emailed warnings for the unconsolidated parcels.)

Since there is the new date and as far as I can see, there's no way to see the individual parcel date once you've consolidated short of splitting them up, if they really throw your parcel away you can probably convince them to compensate you. But there are no guarantees and it's likely to be annoying. So as I mentioned before, you probably should check before hand that they aren't going to throw away your individual parcels which have been virtually consolidated. 

One final thought is if you do have to split up to add a new parcel and can't just consolidate the new parcel without splitting up, there is a slight risk their system will automatically remove your older parcels once you split it up. (This is one reason I didn't test whether you could add items to an existing consolidated parcel.) There is a small risk this could happen even when you consolidate the consolidated parcel with new parcels, but it doesn't seem very likely.

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  # 1301925 11-May-2015 13:08
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Excellent info thanks. I'll take that as consolidate all or nothing or it might get complicated.

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  # 1304602 13-May-2015 15:29
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So I got a mail notification today:

"Your YouShop parcel has arrived in New Zealand. We estimate that it will be delivered by 21 May 2015.".

That's approx 8 days from now. In practice is it faster than the estimate?


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  # 1304620 13-May-2015 15:59
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Usually. My last package arrived 7-10 days earlier than the initial estimate. It's not an express service though.

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