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# 1675013 21-Nov-2016 14:37

Well I be dam, it seems that youshop is pointless now.

But I have been able to get 2 x kindle voyage and 1 x nextbit phones here in the last 6 weeks however.

You would think an update like this should have had an email coming out saying they can no longer ship things like phones, laptops, devices etc

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# 1675031 21-Nov-2016 15:17

China has always been no batteries at all from memory. US has changed so many times that I have had 2 friends give up and have things returned, which amazon are very good about.

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# 1675038 21-Nov-2016 15:38

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China has always been no batteries at all from memory. US has changed so many times that I have had 2 friends give up and have things returned, which amazon are very good about.

That's the thing however doesn't it cost to return?

Youshop should really email users when they change the list. I am just happy my stuff got to me as they were a couple of hundred each, last time I checked (back in Aug this year) cellphones and batteries under a set mAh were fine

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# 1675094 21-Nov-2016 17:35

Amazon emailed something to use to return it for one of them, the other only had to pay a little to send it back.

Its at the stage where even their own staff don't seem to know what is ok and what is not. It seems they think that the only things people want from overseas are shoes and handbags.

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# 1676824 24-Nov-2016 16:37

So just notice youshop have sent out a email with "black friday" deals over in the US etc

2 products look like they have batteries in them (headphones and fitness tracker).

So they won't ship them but they will use the pictures :(

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# 1677054 24-Nov-2016 22:21

And they've confirmed on Twitter that there won't be a Black Friday discount code either, ugh!

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# 1677102 24-Nov-2016 23:32

richms:

China has always been no batteries at all from memory. US has changed so many times that I have had 2 friends give up and have things returned, which amazon are very good about.

I wonder how AliExpress orders with batteries just get shipped here from China and Netherlands et al. then?

Surely the airlines (and NZPost this end) have the same rules for all?

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# 1677107 25-Nov-2016 00:17

Kinda irritating that they send out an email going "Hey, you can buy stuff during this overseas sale and ship it with us!" but don't actually have a code for it.

On the other hand I can kinda see why, presumably they get a huge wave of parcels during this time and make a decent amount from it.

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# 1677635 25-Nov-2016 20:36

PhantomNVD:

I wonder how AliExpress orders with batteries just get shipped here from China and Netherlands et al. then?

Surely the airlines (and NZPost this end) have the same rules for all?

They do, but dodgy shippers may not comply. China Post and HK Post got very strict and started Xraying and rejecting items at 2 years or something ago which caused massive slowdowns. I'm not sure if they're still doing that but whenever I've ordered items with lithium ion batteries recently they've generally come via strange methods. I.E. They've found shipping agents who've found a way to send the items, generally in violation of the rules without detection. Okay AliExpress sellers often use strange methods but from my experience it's even worse with items with lithium ion batteries nowadays due to the restrictions.

There are some sellers which aren't so bad. E.g. a recent phone from Tiny deal seemed to come from a NZ address even though it was sent from the Chinese warehouse. I'm assuming they have some sort of deal with a re-shipper here and they possibly send items to it via an allowed method and then resend them.

(To be fair, It's not always clear how the items were sent, but I've definitely had items which seemed to be coming from normal mail from Malaysia and elsewhere. Any item which was sent via normal mail from overseas was very likely in violation of rules, since normal mail can't generally guarantee the item wasn't sent via a passenger airline. It needs to be sent via a method which ensures it only uses cargo airlines and complies with whatever rules they have. Most AliExpress sellers only care if the item arrives safely, not if rules were complied with.)

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# 1677636 25-Nov-2016 20:39

They have shipping agents that do all that for them. That is why you don't get a post tracking number right away and it's often a weird non postal number you have to track on some obscure site which then has the real tracking number a few days later.

They consolidate and send on and stuff.

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# 1677644 25-Nov-2016 20:50

So wait, Youshop won't send phones now from the US? We just ordered a Oneplus 3...

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# 1677647 25-Nov-2016 21:00

Sheagae:

So wait, Youshop won't send phones now from the US? We just ordered a Oneplus 3...

No because it has a battery, that is the issue I have emailed them, if they are going to update their "no ship list" they need to email everyone to let them know.

I did get my nextbit robin via them a couple of weeks ago but have no idea if they will send the oneplus on for you now.

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# 1677650 25-Nov-2016 21:02

Looking at this Youshop link I see where they say no lithium-ion batteries.

Hmm

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# 1677656 25-Nov-2016 21:16

Sheagae:

Looking at this Youshop link I see where they say no lithium-ion batteries.

Hmm

Yes. Yet they don't tell anyone when they update it (no emails etc). Back in August it did say you could have batteries under a set mAh.

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# 1677684 25-Nov-2016 22:39

tripp:

Sheagae:

Looking at this Youshop link I see where they say no lithium-ion batteries.

Hmm

Yes. Yet they don't tell anyone when they update it (no emails etc). Back in August it did say you could have batteries under a set mAh.

Well that's bad.

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