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# 109148 13-Sep-2012 12:41
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Now this sounds intriguing. An audio codec that is suitable for virtually all purposes and is royalty free.

Support is already in the current build of Firefox, amongst other apps. Sounds promising.

  • Bit-rates from 6 kb/s to 510 kb/s
  • Sampling rates from 8 kHz (narrowband) to 48 kHz (fullband)
  • Frame sizes from 2.5 ms to 60 ms
  • Support for both constant bit-rate (CBR) and variable bit-rate (VBR)
  • Audio bandwidth from narrowband to full-band
  • Support for speech and music
  • Support for mono and stereo
  • Support for up to 255 channels (multistream frames)
  • Dynamically adjustable bitrate, audio bandwidth, and frame size
  • Good loss robustness and packet loss concealment (PLC)
  • Floating point and fixed-point implementation

In a similar vein to OGG but seems a bit more versatile, maybe it'll catch on more.

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  # 685520 13-Sep-2012 12:44
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Skype has written a easy to explain blog about it yesterday as well.

Do whatever you want to do man.


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  # 685524 13-Sep-2012 12:53
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Now that does sound promising.

In a similar vein to OGG but seems a bit more versatile, maybe it'll catch on more.

Minor point; wasn't ogg the container format and vorbis the codec? :)


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  # 685525 13-Sep-2012 12:55
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Pedant ;)

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  # 685581 13-Sep-2012 13:43
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Speed is good too, tested encoding a 13.5 minute track and got:

22.3s to encode using LAME (v3.99, 64bit build)
17s to encode using Opus!

Using entirely default settings of course, so YMMV.

The resulting file played happily in Firefox.

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  # 685585 13-Sep-2012 13:53
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I thought the main difference between Opus and Vorbis is that Opus was originally aimed at the low latency applications such as real time communication, voip etc where there is no real dominant codec.

Whereas vorbis was really going head to head with the likes of mp3, which is well entrenched.

As a side benefit, it turns out that Opus compares pretty well to mp3 and aac as well.. but I got the impression that Opus could for example be a replacement for the likes of G.722?

And a couple of companies have made patent claims, namely Qualcom and Huawei, but the Opus developers are adamant that the patents don't apply to their code (but that didn't really work out for samsung). And while the patent claims may be subject to FRAND, that could still mean there is a cost involved which would really suck.

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  # 685599 13-Sep-2012 14:13
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Hopefully they are using a genuine from-scratch algorithm. Now someone needs a comparable video codec so we can get rid of h.264.


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  # 685642 13-Sep-2012 15:31
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stevenz: Hopefully they are using a genuine from-scratch algorithm. Now someone needs a comparable video codec so we can get rid of h.264.

I don't know the technical ins and outs of this video codec. I simply know that it exists, and that is it purportedly an open and royalty-free video compression format.

These two codecs inside an MKV or OGG container could potentially become the new open source standard.

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  # 685675 13-Sep-2012 16:17
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  # 685679 13-Sep-2012 16:19
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x264 is already a completely open source implementation of h.264. h.265 development will begin soon, perhaps focus should shift to that :)

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  # 685715 13-Sep-2012 17:04
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hahha.. that's the good thing about standards right -- there are so many to choose from.

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