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  Reply # 787234 26-Mar-2013 14:04
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I don't support gay marriage.
Went to the website to vote but dont see the poll. Anybody got a link?

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  Reply # 787240 26-Mar-2013 14:13
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Klipspringer: I don't support gay marriage.
Went to the website to vote but dont see the poll. Anybody got a link?


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10873630 right hand side of the page.

(BTW I haven't voted, might though if we hear too much bitching about it though Wink )

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  Reply # 787245 26-Mar-2013 14:16
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Just voted now.

Which of the following best fits your view about marriage law?14250–14300 votes
It should remain only between a man and a woman. 55%55%It should be changed to allow it between same sex couples. 39%39%I don't know/I don't care

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  Reply # 787253 26-Mar-2013 14:27
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The problem here is two-fold: silly newspaper website poll with likely biased responses AND the resulting statistics being presented as conclusive in a newspaper website headline.

Stuff does stupid polls like this all the time, but fortunately they don't report the results in news articles as fact (actually they probably have at some point, it seems like the sort of thing they would do).


Individual opinions aside, its pretty clear that the poll is rubbish since it bears no resemblance to any of the more robust polls on the topic

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  Reply # 787256 26-Mar-2013 14:30
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On a lighter note:

I'm all for gay marrage, however personally, the last thing I want is a Gay poll thrust down my throat :)

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  Reply # 787257 26-Mar-2013 14:30
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Or what people don't want to hear.

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Reply # 787262 26-Mar-2013 14:40
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Just a FYI...

ALL of the threads that have touched on this topic in the past have been locked due to breaches of the FUG.  If you are unsure of the FUGs please take a moment to re-read them.

All of the moderators are watching this thread, so any steps out of line will resulting in this being locked, and the poster warned and/or banned.

Thanks - Nate.

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  Reply # 787270 26-Mar-2013 14:43
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nate: Just a FYI...

ALL of the threads that have touched on this topic in the past have been locked due to breaches of the FUG.  If you are unsure of the FUGs please take a moment to re-read them.

All of the moderators are watching this thread, so any steps out of line will resulting in this being locked, and the poster warned and/or banned.

Thanks - Nate.


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  Reply # 787271 26-Mar-2013 14:48
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sittingduckz: Oop's you're talking to me aren't you Embarassed


Nope, you are fine.

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  Reply # 787274 26-Mar-2013 14:53
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nickb800: The problem here is two-fold: silly newspaper website poll with likely biased responses AND the resulting statistics being presented as conclusive in a newspaper website headline.

Stuff does stupid polls like this all the time, but fortunately they don't report the results in news articles as fact (actually they probably have at some point, it seems like the sort of thing they would do).


Individual opinions aside, its pretty clear that the poll is rubbish since it bears no resemblance to any of the more robust polls on the topic


Any online polls are really of no value. Properly conducted polls (Such as the Herald Digipoll, Neilson polls etc) are conducted in a planned and controlled way in order to canvas a cross section of the target and produce statistically accurate results (within a margin of error). The headline article on the Herald today for example is talking about the Herald Digipoll, not the accompanying online poll on the same site.




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  Reply # 787279 26-Mar-2013 14:59
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sleemanj: Possibly, but I imagine that the problem of international recognition would be there if it's a same-sex civil union or a same-sex marriage.  

The international recognition of current marriage is largely non-existent by default, it's pretty much up to each country what they accept as a marriage, from which countries.


My understanding is that we have formal agreements in some regards to this. For example, I understand that all Commonwealth countries are party to an agreement allowing the legal recognition of a marriage under the terms it was solemised, regardless of that counties own law.

For example, a same sex marriage solemised in Canada already has full legal recondition in all Commonwealth nations today.




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  Reply # 787292 26-Mar-2013 15:37
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This is how I see it.

OP disagreed with the poll result as it does not support what he think is 'right'. I on the other hand think everyone is entitled to their opinion. I advocate respect and freedom of opinion.

As of late, I notice that if you have different opinion to gay community, you are often labelled as intolerant, judgemental, close minded, religious etc. It is sad to see the world has gone backwards






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  Reply # 787294 26-Mar-2013 15:38
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Oh you slippery slope proponents crack me up.




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  Reply # 787299 26-Mar-2013 15:43
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Fixed that for you.

nakedmolerat:

As of late, I notice that if you have different opinion to gay community, you are often labelled as intolerant, judgemental, close minded, religious, Bigot etc.

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  Reply # 787303 26-Mar-2013 16:00
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nakedmolerat: This is how I see it.

OP disagreed with the poll result as it does not support what he think is 'right'. I on the other hand think everyone is entitled to their opinion. I advocate respect and freedom of opinion.

As of late, I notice that if you have different opinion to gay community, you are often labelled as intolerant, judgemental, close minded, religious etc. It is sad to see the world has gone backwards



World going backwards? You mean one where a minority group oppressed throughout most of recorded history is enjoying a level of civil liberty never previously available to them? Yikes, indeed what a terrible world it has become. Just a terrible slippery slope. Terrible.




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