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KiwiNZ:DonGould:
What do we actually do about this spying without over sight?
How, as a community to we actually fix this problem?
Actually very little, the Government has the numbers to pass the legislation. in 2014 you can vote for say NZ Green, NZ Maori or Labour, the later has said they will repeal it however history has shown that it is seldom the case.
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Subject: I do not consent to the GCSB bill 109-2
Message Body:
Dear Member of Parliament,
I do not consent to the GCSB bill 109-2.
I do no consent to any spying from any agency.
Sincerely,
Joe Bloggs.
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a.adams@ministers.govt.nz; selwynoffice@parliament.govt.nz; jacinda.ardern@parliament.govt.nz; shane.ardern@parliament.govt.nz; chris.auchinvole@parliament.govt.nz; kanwaljit.singh.bakshi@parliament.govt.nz; j.banks@ministers.govt.nz; johnbanks.epsom@parliament.govt.nz; Maggie.barry@parliament.govt.nz; carol.beaumont@parliament.govt.nz; david.bennett@parliament.govt.nz; felicity.cuzens@parliament.govt.nz; c.borrows@ministers.govt.nz; chester.wanganui@xtra.co.nz; chester.hawera@xtra.co.nz; s.bridges@ministers.govt.nz; steffan.browning@parliament.govt.nz; g.brownlee@parliament.govt.nz; ainslie.newell@parliament.govt.nz; cam.calderMP@parliament.govt.nz; speakersoffice3@parliament.govt.nz; cartermp@parliament.govt.nz; david.clark@parliament.govt.nz; david.clendon@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.auckland@greens.org.nz; j.coleman@ministers.govt.nz; j.collins@ministers.govt.nz; office@judithcollins.co.nz; clayton.cosgrove@parliament.govt.nz; clayton.cosgrove.mp@parliament.govt.nz; david.cunliffe@parliament.govt.nz; newlynnmp@parliament.govt.nz; clare.curran@parliament.govt.nz; lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz; Jacqui.dean@parliament.govt.nz; Catherine.delahunty@parliament.govt.nz; p.dunne@ministers.govt.nz; electjville@xtra.co.nz; ruth.dyson@parliament.govt.nz; porthills.mp@parliament.govt.nz; b.english@ministers.govt.nz; elecgor@esi.co.nz; matthew.swann@parliament.govt.nz; mana.electorate@parliament.govt.nz; darien.fenton@parliament.govt.nz; office@labournorth.org.nz; c.finlayson@ministers.govt.nz; teururoa.flavell@parliament.govt.nz; c.foss@ministers.govt.nz; craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz; Paul.Foster-Bell@parliament.govt.nz; Julie.genter@parliament.govt.nz; phil.goff@parliament.govt.nz; phil@goff.org.nz; paul.goldsmith@parliament.govt.nz; j.goodhew@ministers.govt.nz; Kennedy.graham@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.christchurch@greens.org.nz; t.groser@ministers.govt.nz; nathan.guy@ministers.govt.nz; national.horowhenua@xtra.co.nz; national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz; kevin.hague@parliament.govt.nz; Hone.harawira@parliament.govt.nz; john.hayes@parliament.govt.nz; phil.heatley@parliament.govt.nz; tau.henare@parliament.govt.nz; tau.henaremp@parliament.govt.nz; chris.hipkins@parliament.govt.nz; josephine.collins@parliament.govt.nz; janette.granville@parliament.govt.nz; Brendan.horan@parliament.govt.nz; gareth.hughes@parliament.govt.nz; raymond.huo@parliament.govt.nz; paul.hutchison@parliament.govt.nz; hunua.electorate@xtra.co.nz; shane.jones@parliament.govt.nz; shanejonesmp@xtra.co.nz; s.joyce@ministers.govt.nz; n.kaye@ministers.govt.nz; j.key@ministers.govt.nz; genelle@johnkey.mp.net.nz; A.King@parliament.govt.nz; kilbirnieeo@xtra.co.nz; colin.king@parliament.govt.nz; colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz; melissa.lee@parliament.govt.nz; Iain.lees-galloway@parliament.govt.nz; graham@iainleesgallowaymp.org; joyce@iainleesgallowaymp.org; Andrew.little@parliament.govt.nz; Jan.logie@parliament.govt.nz; Asenati.Lole-Taylor@parliament.govt.nz; NZFirst.aucklandsouth@parliament.govt.nz; peseta.sam.lotu-iiga@parliament.govt.nz; sam4maungakiekie@parliament.govt.nz; tim.macindoe@parliament.govt.nz; moana.mackey@labour.org.nz; nanaia.mahuta@parliament.govt.nz; tainuielectorate@xtra.co.nz; trevor.mallard@parliament.govt.nz; WOAoffice@xtra.co.nz; petone.eo@clear.net.nz; Tracey.martin@parliament.govt.nz; mojo.mathers@parliament.govt.nz; todd.mcclay@parliament.govt.nz; m.mccully@ministers.govt.nz; murray.mccully@xtra.co.nz; Ian.mckelvie@parliament.govt.nz; mark.mitchell@parliament.govt.nz; sue.moroney@parliament.govt.nz; waikatohub.mps@xtra.co.nz; Alfred.ngaro@parliament.govt.nz; russel.norman@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.wellington@parliament.govt.nz; Damien.oconnor@parliament.govt.nz; Simon.OConnor@parliament.govt.nz; Denis.ORourke@parliament.govt.nz; h.parata@ministers.govt.nz; david.parker@parliament.govt.nz; NZFirst@parliament.govt.nz; rajen.prasad@parliament.govt.nz; Richard.prosser@parliament.govt.nz; jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz; office@grantrobertson.co.nz; ross.robertson@parliament.govt.nz; rae.waterhouse@parliament.govt.nz; michael.clatworthy@parliament.govt.nz; denise.roche@parliament.govt.nz; jam <-lee.rossmp@parliament.govt.nz>; BotanyMP@parliament.govt.nz; eric.roy@parliament.govt.nz; t.ryall@ministers.govt.nz; mike.sabin@parliament.govt.nz; Eugenie.sage@parliament.govt.nz; heather.henderson@parliament.govt.nz; pita.sharples@ministers.govt.nz; david.shearer@parliament.govt.nz; scott.simpson@parliament.govt.nz; sua.william.sio@parliament.govt.nz; n.smith@ministers.govt.nz; nick@nick4nelson.co.nz; barbara.stewart@parliament.govt.nz; maryan.street@parliament.govt.nz; rino.tirikatene@parliament.govt.nz; lindsay.tisch@parliament.govt.nz; Tisch.tekauwhata@xtra.co.nz; anne.tolley@ministers.govt.nz; tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz; tolleygis@parliament.govt.nz; c.tremain@ministers.govt.nz; napier.electorate@airnet.net.nz; metiria.turei@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.dunedin@greens.org.nz; t.turia@ministers.govt.nz; Tari.Turia@xtra.co.nz; phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz; libby.obrien@parliament.govt.nz; Upston.taupo@parliament.govt.nz; Upston.sthwaikato@parliament.govt.nz; Upston.cambridge@parliament.govt.nz; nicky.wagner@parliament.govt.nz; Chch.office@parliament.govt.nz; holly.walker@parliament.govt.nz; Mereana.Ruri@parliament.govt.nz; kate.wilkinson@parliament.govt.nz; waimakariri@xtra.co.nz; Andrew.williams@parliament.govt.nz; andrew.williamsMP@parliament.govt.nz; m.williamson@ministers.govt.nz; m.woodhouse@ministers.govt.nz; blueandgold@parliament.govt.nz; jian.yang@parliament.govt.nz; jonathan.young@parliament.govt.nz
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Mike
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Trusted SubscriberDonGould:KiwiNZ:DonGould:
What do we actually do about this spying without over sight?
How, as a community to we actually fix this problem?
Actually very little, the Government has the numbers to pass the legislation. in 2014 you can vote for say NZ Green, NZ Maori or Labour, the later has said they will repeal it however history has shown that it is seldom the case.
Ok so this law will come to pass and won't get rolled back.
So again, how do we, as a community, ensure over sight?
Mike
Retired IT Manager.
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.
Mac user, Windows curser, Chrome OS desired.
The great divide is the lies from both sides.
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Woolly: You can email the members of the club.
Below is an example
Keep it concise (not like my posts) and be polite.
Please don't post from your work email.
Once you've crafted your little gift pass it on to others to spread the love.
Request a Read and Delivery Receipt.
Subject: I do not consent to the GCSB bill 109-2
Message Body:
Dear Member of Parliament,
I do not consent to the GCSB bill 109-2.
I do no consent to any spying from any agency.
Sincerely,
Joe Bloggs.
The email addresses are from the link below ~175
http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/mpp/mps/contact/00HOOOCMPPMPsContact1/contact-list
I'd suggest copying and pasting the addresses below into the BCC "Blind Carbon Copy" field.
a.adams@ministers.govt.nz; selwynoffice@parliament.govt.nz; jacinda.ardern@parliament.govt.nz; shane.ardern@parliament.govt.nz; chris.auchinvole@parliament.govt.nz; kanwaljit.singh.bakshi@parliament.govt.nz; j.banks@ministers.govt.nz; johnbanks.epsom@parliament.govt.nz; Maggie.barry@parliament.govt.nz; carol.beaumont@parliament.govt.nz; david.bennett@parliament.govt.nz; felicity.cuzens@parliament.govt.nz; c.borrows@ministers.govt.nz; chester.wanganui@xtra.co.nz; chester.hawera@xtra.co.nz; s.bridges@ministers.govt.nz; steffan.browning@parliament.govt.nz; g.brownlee@parliament.govt.nz; ainslie.newell@parliament.govt.nz; cam.calderMP@parliament.govt.nz; speakersoffice3@parliament.govt.nz; cartermp@parliament.govt.nz; david.clark@parliament.govt.nz; david.clendon@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.auckland@greens.org.nz; j.coleman@ministers.govt.nz; j.collins@ministers.govt.nz; office@judithcollins.co.nz; clayton.cosgrove@parliament.govt.nz; clayton.cosgrove.mp@parliament.govt.nz; david.cunliffe@parliament.govt.nz; newlynnmp@parliament.govt.nz; clare.curran@parliament.govt.nz; lianne.dalziel@parliament.govt.nz; Jacqui.dean@parliament.govt.nz; Catherine.delahunty@parliament.govt.nz; p.dunne@ministers.govt.nz; electjville@xtra.co.nz; ruth.dyson@parliament.govt.nz; porthills.mp@parliament.govt.nz; b.english@ministers.govt.nz; elecgor@esi.co.nz; matthew.swann@parliament.govt.nz; mana.electorate@parliament.govt.nz; darien.fenton@parliament.govt.nz; office@labournorth.org.nz; c.finlayson@ministers.govt.nz; teururoa.flavell@parliament.govt.nz; c.foss@ministers.govt.nz; craigfoss@backingthebay.co.nz; Paul.Foster-Bell@parliament.govt.nz; Julie.genter@parliament.govt.nz; phil.goff@parliament.govt.nz; phil@goff.org.nz; paul.goldsmith@parliament.govt.nz; j.goodhew@ministers.govt.nz; Kennedy.graham@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.christchurch@greens.org.nz; t.groser@ministers.govt.nz; nathan.guy@ministers.govt.nz; national.horowhenua@xtra.co.nz; national.kapiti@xtra.co.nz; kevin.hague@parliament.govt.nz; Hone.harawira@parliament.govt.nz; john.hayes@parliament.govt.nz; phil.heatley@parliament.govt.nz; tau.henare@parliament.govt.nz; tau.henaremp@parliament.govt.nz; chris.hipkins@parliament.govt.nz; josephine.collins@parliament.govt.nz; janette.granville@parliament.govt.nz; Brendan.horan@parliament.govt.nz; gareth.hughes@parliament.govt.nz; raymond.huo@parliament.govt.nz; paul.hutchison@parliament.govt.nz; hunua.electorate@xtra.co.nz; shane.jones@parliament.govt.nz; shanejonesmp@xtra.co.nz; s.joyce@ministers.govt.nz; n.kaye@ministers.govt.nz; j.key@ministers.govt.nz; genelle@johnkey.mp.net.nz; A.King@parliament.govt.nz; kilbirnieeo@xtra.co.nz; colin.king@parliament.govt.nz; colin.kingmp@xtra.co.nz; melissa.lee@parliament.govt.nz; Iain.lees-galloway@parliament.govt.nz; graham@iainleesgallowaymp.org; joyce@iainleesgallowaymp.org; Andrew.little@parliament.govt.nz; Jan.logie@parliament.govt.nz; Asenati.Lole-Taylor@parliament.govt.nz; NZFirst.aucklandsouth@parliament.govt.nz; peseta.sam.lotu-iiga@parliament.govt.nz; sam4maungakiekie@parliament.govt.nz; tim.macindoe@parliament.govt.nz; moana.mackey@labour.org.nz; nanaia.mahuta@parliament.govt.nz; tainuielectorate@xtra.co.nz; trevor.mallard@parliament.govt.nz; WOAoffice@xtra.co.nz; petone.eo@clear.net.nz; Tracey.martin@parliament.govt.nz; mojo.mathers@parliament.govt.nz; todd.mcclay@parliament.govt.nz; m.mccully@ministers.govt.nz; murray.mccully@xtra.co.nz; Ian.mckelvie@parliament.govt.nz; mark.mitchell@parliament.govt.nz; sue.moroney@parliament.govt.nz; waikatohub.mps@xtra.co.nz; Alfred.ngaro@parliament.govt.nz; russel.norman@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.wellington@parliament.govt.nz; Damien.oconnor@parliament.govt.nz; Simon.OConnor@parliament.govt.nz; Denis.ORourke@parliament.govt.nz; h.parata@ministers.govt.nz; david.parker@parliament.govt.nz; NZFirst@parliament.govt.nz; rajen.prasad@parliament.govt.nz; Richard.prosser@parliament.govt.nz; jen.toogood@parliament.govt.nz; office@grantrobertson.co.nz; ross.robertson@parliament.govt.nz; rae.waterhouse@parliament.govt.nz; michael.clatworthy@parliament.govt.nz; denise.roche@parliament.govt.nz; jam <-lee.rossmp@parliament.govt.nz>; BotanyMP@parliament.govt.nz; eric.roy@parliament.govt.nz; t.ryall@ministers.govt.nz; mike.sabin@parliament.govt.nz; Eugenie.sage@parliament.govt.nz; heather.henderson@parliament.govt.nz; pita.sharples@ministers.govt.nz; david.shearer@parliament.govt.nz; scott.simpson@parliament.govt.nz; sua.william.sio@parliament.govt.nz; n.smith@ministers.govt.nz; nick@nick4nelson.co.nz; barbara.stewart@parliament.govt.nz; maryan.street@parliament.govt.nz; rino.tirikatene@parliament.govt.nz; lindsay.tisch@parliament.govt.nz; Tisch.tekauwhata@xtra.co.nz; anne.tolley@ministers.govt.nz; tolleywhk@xtra.co.nz; tolleygis@parliament.govt.nz; c.tremain@ministers.govt.nz; napier.electorate@airnet.net.nz; metiria.turei@parliament.govt.nz; greenmps.dunedin@greens.org.nz; t.turia@ministers.govt.nz; Tari.Turia@xtra.co.nz; phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz; libby.obrien@parliament.govt.nz; Upston.taupo@parliament.govt.nz; Upston.sthwaikato@parliament.govt.nz; 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PaulBags: To best ensure oversight we should become a republic and rewrite the constitution to explicitly require transparency from: government, parliament, the judiciary, all ministries and departments, any other government/public entity I've forgotten about, and from any entity otherwise working for or providing services to the aforementioned.
It would be a challenge writing the mechanism for requiring transparency while remaining clear, concise, and leaving no loop holes. More challenging still would be the process of getting to a point where we can, as a country, rewrite our constitution from scratch. And the most challenging part would be getting everyone to agree on the new constitution.
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Trusted SubscriberDonGould:PaulBags: To best ensure oversight we should become a republic and rewrite the constitution to explicitly require transparency from: government, parliament, the judiciary, all ministries and departments, any other government/public entity I've forgotten about, and from any entity otherwise working for or providing services to the aforementioned.
It would be a challenge writing the mechanism for requiring transparency while remaining clear, concise, and leaving no loop holes. More challenging still would be the process of getting to a point where we can, as a country, rewrite our constitution from scratch. And the most challenging part would be getting everyone to agree on the new constitution.
I really think we have to think within the bounds of reality.
It's just silly thinking that we're going to consider moving to a republic.
More realistically we need to be thinking about how we manage a world where the GCSB has these powers which it's clearly going to get.
Mike
Retired IT Manager.
The views stated in my posts are my personal views and not that of any other organisation.
Mac user, Windows curser, Chrome OS desired.
The great divide is the lies from both sides.
DonGould:PaulBags: To best ensure oversight we should become a republic and rewrite the constitution to explicitly require transparency from: government, parliament, the judiciary, all ministries and departments, any other government/public entity I've forgotten about, and from any entity otherwise working for or providing services to the aforementioned.
It would be a challenge writing the mechanism for requiring transparency while remaining clear, concise, and leaving no loop holes. More challenging still would be the process of getting to a point where we can, as a country, rewrite our constitution from scratch. And the most challenging part would be getting everyone to agree on the new constitution.
I really think we have to think within the bounds of reality.
It's just silly thinking that we're going to consider moving to a republic.
More realistically we need to be thinking about how we manage a world where the GCSB has these powers which it's clearly going to get.
KiwiNZ:
your life will not change.
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