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Topic # 129227 7-Sep-2013 23:48
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ok so at the moment im in the middle of a fight with my boss because apparently they cant afford to pay for my weeks wages, not been informed or anything until i asked!! i want to know the best way to write a resignation letter for that if anyone knows and if anyone has any tips as well because we had a 30 minute argument at work today saying i am entitled to it because im not there to do free hours, and out of everyone i do majority of the work and yet im getting the short end of the stick!!!

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  Reply # 891506 7-Sep-2013 23:55
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I suggest you seek some proper advice before resigning. Options include the Citizens Advice Beaureu and I believe theres another group too though that deal with employment disputes, but the name escapes me. These services are free. You can also speak to a lawyer of course.

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  Reply # 891511 8-Sep-2013 00:31
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Resignation is easy. A "I resign" is as simple as it gets. What you do need to do though is look at your employment agreement and see what length of notice you have to give. If you are paid weekly then a weeks notice is the norm. You have to work your notice period out. Or there may be a provision to pay you through your notice period without you being at work. But sounds like the issue is getting paid in the first case. 

Check out your employment agreement!



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  Reply # 891529 8-Sep-2013 03:52
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thanks for all your replies!! im not under ANY contracts so i dont have any restrictions as to leaving.

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  Reply # 891531 8-Sep-2013 06:17
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If there is NO contract at all you are in a shaky position. Get professional advice.




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  Reply # 891532 8-Sep-2013 06:21
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patrickstarr: thanks for all your replies!! im not under ANY contracts so i dont have any restrictions as to leaving.


Keep it nice, something along the lines of failure to pay due wages, constructive dismisal, a formal complaint will be filed with the ERA (and actually do it). Put it in writing.

It is a bit concerning that you seem to not have any kind of employment contract as it's in every employees best interest to have an employment contract and it's a legal requirment of an employer to ensure that they have one with each employee.



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  Reply # 891547 8-Sep-2013 07:50
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Employment contracts must be in writing and it is the responsibility of the employer to do so, I would suggest that if you resign you speak to a lawyer and take a dispute to the era which you'd have an excellent chance of winning.

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  Reply # 891562 8-Sep-2013 09:36
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patrickstarr: ok so at the moment im in the middle of a fight with my boss because apparently they cant afford to pay for my weeks wages, not been informed or anything until i asked!! i want to know the best way to write a resignation letter for that if anyone knows and if anyone has any tips as well because we had a 30 minute argument at work today saying i am entitled to it because im not there to do free hours, and out of everyone i do majority of the work and yet im getting the short end of the stick!!!


Simply engage the services of an employment law solicitor. One letter should see your money arrive.





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  Reply # 891630 8-Sep-2013 14:29
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Quitting is easy, you just say so.

But, remember when you are looking for your next job, they will want references from the last, so be careful how you word things....

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  Reply # 891704 8-Sep-2013 17:16
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Rule number 1: Don't burn your bridges, no matter how pissed off you are.

make your resignation sickly sweet, as it will be on record.


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  Reply # 891719 8-Sep-2013 17:54
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I give up,
You let me down,
Why'd you run around and desert me?
You made me cry,
Time to say goodbye,
Why did you tell those lies and hurt me?

No seriously, I quit.

^^ There we go, just wrote it for you.






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  Reply # 891721 8-Sep-2013 18:04
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Sounddude: Rule number 1: Don't burn your bridges, no matter how pissed off you are.

make your resignation sickly sweet, as it will be on record.


thanks for that, i got an ex work mate who i can use as a reference for work from there.
She left because yeah had enough, im in the hair industry as well so tht might be why it may seem like it was
weird i dont have a contract.

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  Reply # 891722 8-Sep-2013 18:13
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patrickstarr: 
weird i dont have a contract.


Technically you don't need a contract, as you fall under the default employment laws. So don't be stressed that you don't have a contract. The employment laws are very clear.





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  Reply # 891851 9-Sep-2013 07:46
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pctek: Quitting is easy, you just say so.

But, remember when you are looking for your next job, they will want references from the last, so be careful how you word things....



This is a particular problem in NZ.

In the UK, if you ring up and ask a former employer for a reference it is highly unlikely that you will get anything other than a generic letter from the HR Department that says something like:

"Mr X worked for us from A until B. His job title was IT Messiah and his performance was satisfactory." (obviously if an employee was dismissed following a legally correct procedure, they will say so)

This is because actual managers are invariably banned from giving references and are obliged by company policy to refer all such requests to HR. The reason for this is a number of successful legal claims by employees who have lost jobs due to bad references given by managers simply because the manager and employee did not get on, rather than because the employee was useless.

In NZ it is all too easy to get access direct to your previous manager and all too easy for them to sabotage your new employment with impunity.

An example my wife experienced recently: she was interviewed for a $200,000 a year role by a panel of 4 people, twice. They decided that she was the best person for the job and wished to offer it to her subject to references. She gave them two referees, her immediate past manager and her penultimate one. The penultimate one gave a glowing reference. The immediate past manager did also until she was asked "How do you see X in this role?" to which she apparently replied along the lines of "I'm not sure she is ready for that yet."

That one reply was enough to end the hiring practice in the face of 4 interviewers thinking she was great and one referee agreeing with them!

Firstly it was an inappropriate question which sought nothing factual - merely a third party opinion on something they were not really qualified to comment on and secondly, what sane hiring body would not have simply asked for a third referee, assuming that this may be a personality issue given the overwhelmingly positive views from all other parties involved?







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