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Topic # 133746 1-Nov-2013 08:17
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Looks like sanity is coming...! Electronic devices to be permitted throughout the flight "by the end of the year" in many cases.

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  Reply # 925325 1-Nov-2013 08:25
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Are you sure? You can't get anyway from having to listen to other people's phone conversations on a plane.



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  Reply # 925327 1-Nov-2013 08:30
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No matter - voice calls are still not allowed! I agree that they never should - and of course on long haul they would often be impossible. I suppose there are always those Skyphone things although I have never seen anyone use one yet.

You will be able to read your Kindle and listen to your iPod etc though and for me, being told to stop reading has always been the bit I find most annoying.





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 925333 1-Nov-2013 08:33
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WiFi will also be prohibited under 10000ft, which is unchanged from present policy.

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  Reply # 925336 1-Nov-2013 08:41
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sbiddle: WiFi will also be prohibited under 10000ft, which is unchanged from present policy.


If you can use WiFi at 30K feet then you could use a VoIP client like sky I should imagine..




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  Reply # 925343 1-Nov-2013 08:53
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it does say that the devices must be in aeroplane mode.

The main difference seems to be that you will be allowed to use them in that mode from the time you board until the time you disembark, including take off and landing.





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  Reply # 925397 1-Nov-2013 09:26
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sbiddle: WiFi will also be prohibited under 10000ft, which is unchanged from present policy.


If you can use WiFi at 30K feet then you could use a VoIP client like sky I should imagine..


VoIP is block on Gogo. As is most streaming video. You can use Skype chat.




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  Reply # 925454 1-Nov-2013 10:10
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You also have to remember that this is in the US. I can see Air New Zealand taking a "cautious" approach (i.e.non implementation) until they can evaluate overseas experience.

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  Reply # 925455 1-Nov-2013 10:12
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Geektastic: No matter - voice calls are still not allowed! I agree that they never should - and of course on long haul they would often be impossible. I suppose there are always those Skyphone things although I have never seen anyone use one yet.

You will be able to read your Kindle and listen to your iPod etc though and for me, being told to stop reading has always been the bit I find most annoying.


This! OMG This. Most annoying part of flying.

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  Reply # 925459 1-Nov-2013 10:14
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Dratsab: You also have to remember that this is in the US. I can see Air New Zealand taking a "cautious" approach (i.e.non implementation) until they can evaluate overseas experience.


CAA need to act first and change their rules before Air NZ can change anything.



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  Reply # 925461 1-Nov-2013 10:16
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Dratsab: You also have to remember that this is in the US. I can see Air New Zealand taking a "cautious" approach (i.e.non implementation) until they can evaluate overseas experience.


Why? Assuming the CAA follow suit, Air NZ's planes are the same as everyone else's, excepting the fact that they are usually more expensive to sit in!





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  Reply # 925464 1-Nov-2013 10:17
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Geektastic:
Dratsab: You also have to remember that this is in the US. I can see Air New Zealand taking a "cautious" approach (i.e.non implementation) until they can evaluate overseas experience.


Why? Assuming the CAA follow suit, Air NZ's planes are the same as everyone else's, excepting the fact that they are usually more expensive to sit in!


Airlines set their own policies, and AirNZ has always taken a slow approach to adopting policies like this. I expect to see it mid to end of 2014 unfortunately. 


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  Reply # 925657 1-Nov-2013 13:32
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Dratsab: You also have to remember that this is in the US. I can see Air New Zealand taking a "cautious" approach (i.e.non implementation) until they can evaluate overseas experience.


Why? Assuming the CAA follow suit, Air NZ's planes are the same as everyone else's, excepting the fact that they are usually more expensive to sit in!


Airlines set their own policies, and AirNZ has always taken a slow approach to adopting policies like this. I expect to see it mid to end of 2014 unfortunately. 



Airlines set their own policies, but they can't override the CAA rules. Before electronic devices could be used in NZ the CAA would need to change their rules.

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  Reply # 925692 1-Nov-2013 14:14
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I think networkn is aware of this and wasn't trying to suggest airlines could set policies which override the CAA but rather that they set policies (slowly) in accordance with provisions of the CAA regulatory framework. In a case like this the CAA will not come out and say airlines *must* allow passengers to use their electronic devices, they will say airlines *can* allow it then leave it to each individual carriers discretion.

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  Reply # 925702 1-Nov-2013 14:24
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I wonder if people will pay attention to the safety instructions a the beginning of the flight now that they can put on headphones and zone out.

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  Reply # 925710 1-Nov-2013 14:28
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Dratsab: I think networkn is aware of this and wasn't trying to suggest airlines could set policies which override the CAA but rather that they set policies (slowly) in accordance with provisions of the CAA regulatory framework. In a case like this the CAA will not come out and say airlines *must* allow passengers to use their electronic devices, they will say airlines *can* allow it then leave it to each individual carriers discretion.


Exactly. The CAA will likely approve this fairly quickly, I expect AirNZ to take their sweet time approving it after that.

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