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Ultimate Geek

  # 948569 10-Dec-2013 11:15
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KiwiNZ: No they shouldn't. They are a memorial to lives needlessly lost.

Best way to stop their numbers growing is ...

*Slow down 
*Drive to the rules and drive to the conditions
*Drink zero alcohol and take zero drugs before driving
*And generally don't prat around on the roads

 While I do agree with you, good luck enforcing that. 

We have a lot of policing out and still, people are being killed on the road.

Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate it being a memorial as such, but how about this: someone dies outside your driveway. Theres now a cross and frequent flowers dropped there. You're now reminded every day you leave or enter your home that someone died right there.

We don't commemorate any other places that people die. We memorialise most people with headstones, or plaques. Some people dedicate a park bench or public building. We don't see people putting up crosses in hospitals, or nursing homes, or people's houses. My workmate died in his rented home, we didn't stick up a cross in the middle of his lounge for the landlord to deal with, we planted a tree in a green space at work, and put a bench with a plaque next to it.
I appreciate the sentiment of the roadside crosses, but there's better ways to remember the dead than attempting to sanctify the spot they they died.

There are memorials at , Cave Creek, Tangiwai, Both sides of Wellington harbour entrance etc etc 

If the placing of a memorial helps the healing process I see no harm.

Add Gallipoli to that list...

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  # 948578 10-Dec-2013 11:25
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Seriously, how is any driver distracted? Are you trying to read them as you drive past? They are so easily recognisable that within milliseconds of seeing it you know what it is and can continue to think about driving. A pretty girl, a flash car or anything else out of the ordinary (not saying pretty girls are out of the ordinary...) holds your concentration longer.


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Ultimate Geek

  # 948583 10-Dec-2013 11:33
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Reanalyse: Coming back to a comment made earlier- possibly OK on an open road, but not by someones front gate.
And a memorial (i.e small white cross with name) may be more acceptable than an exhibition (lights, windmills etc.)

We have one approx 10 meters from our front gate. That white cross is nothing compared to finding the driver ejected in to the bank 25 meters from his car. Personally I see no issue and in the 5 years since the accident I have never seen friends/family there. Although due to flowers they must be at some times. This is on SH 1 north of Auckland on a good stretch of road. There is one cross, yet there have been multiple fatals.

I have yet to read a decent argument for why they should not be allowed here.

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