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Lyderies
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  #968436 16-Jan-2014 19:38
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SaltyNZ:
Lyderies: or is he advertising for said party?


I don't need any advertising: I'll vote for him.


Ill vote for him to even though he reminds me of a german santa, with a half evil agenda




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  #968523 16-Jan-2014 21:57
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SaltyNZ:
Lyderies: or is he advertising for said party?


I don't need any advertising: I'll vote for him.

ahhhh.... but you can't vote for him, you can only vote for his party.....
He can't be an MP, and I doubt his party will run for seats, the party will get list MPs in (based on protest vote support)....... soo y'all end up with a bunch of puppet MPs run from the .com mega mansion.
Hmmmm.... sounds kinda familiar

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  #968524 16-Jan-2014 22:00
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Got my Vote. Either that or National.



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  #968534 16-Jan-2014 22:14
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oxnsox:
SaltyNZ:
Lyderies: or is he advertising for said party?


I don't need any advertising: I'll vote for him.

ahhhh.... but you can't vote for him, you can only vote for his party.....
He can't be an MP, and I doubt his party will run for seats, the party will get list MPs in (based on protest vote support)....... soo y'all end up with a bunch of puppet MPs run from the .com mega mansion.
Hmmmm.... sounds kinda familiar


I wondered who would be first to correct me. :-)




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  #968563 17-Jan-2014 00:16
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So, his big party party is cancelled.

It's not wonderful for KDC to have to cancel his launch party but just look at the numbers.

Could National, Labour, The Greens or any of the other parties have got 25,000 to sign up for an event in the centre of Auckland next week? With less than a weeks notice?

I think that all of the other parties will be taking notice of those numbers.

The first week of his new party and 25,000 people show serious interest. He needs to multiply that number by four and a half and his party has 6 MPs in the next parliament and probably neither Nats nor Labour/Greens could form a government without him.

What proportion of those people live in Auckland central? You only need 15,000 votes to get elected in the Auckland Central electorate.

Most parties get at the most few thousand people to turn out to rallies but they then amplify that to several hundreds of thousands of voters. KDC's party needs a much smaller amplification factor to win seats.

Right now the strategists and spin doctors for the country's other parties will be wooing the media to stop them from making the same comparisons in Friday's papers.


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  #968564 17-Jan-2014 00:21
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You want Martyn "Bomber" Bradbury as an MP?

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  #968565 17-Jan-2014 00:26
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He can't do any wrong in the media and is never attacked - that is a class ahead of every other MP. While I wouldn't vote for the greens, I can at least appreciate their MPs are there to push for what they believe will help society with Labour/National etc. MPs probably more as a career move.

K.com is doing this to promote his own, very narrow and self serving cause. Yes I agree about internet freedoms, I just can't see him as a person who is well established to push it.




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  #968598 17-Jan-2014 06:33
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nathan: You want Martyn "Bomber" Bradbury as an MP?


I am not saying that I support the man or would vote for him but he has some big numbers. Actually, in the context f NZ politics, he has some huge numbers.

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  #968609 17-Jan-2014 07:33
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Wow a whole 57 Likes for the page..

BOOORRRINNGGGG!!! 



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  #968611 17-Jan-2014 07:47
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Dotcom is taking the piss. He mocking NZ and folks are falling for it, eventually he will get bored and move to Fiji or Columbia.

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  #968612 17-Jan-2014 07:52
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KiwiNZ: Dotcom is taking the piss. He mocking NZ and folks are falling for it, eventually he will get bored and move to Fiji or Columbia.


Maybe so. But if in the meantime he and his supporters manage to do some good - even if for the wrong reasons - that's really the best you can hope for from any government. And since the policies he supports align strongly with most of us here in regards to internet, freedom, and so on, there's really no reason not to support him until such time as he includes eating babies for lunch on his list. No politician* thinks any further ahead than the next election anyway, so there's no point holding that against him, if you believe it.

 

*OK, I can think of one currently serving parliamentarian that I might otherwise vote for if he were to stand in my electorate.

 







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  #968617 17-Jan-2014 07:56
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KiwiNZ: Dotcom is taking the piss. He mocking NZ and folks are falling for it, eventually he will get bored and move to Fiji or Columbia.


Maybe so. But if in the meantime he and his supporters manage to do some good - even if for the wrong reasons - that's really the best you can hope for from any government. And since the policies he supports align strongly with most of us here in regards to internet, freedom, and so on, there's really no reason not to support him until such time as he includes eating babies for lunch on his list. No politician* thinks any further ahead than the next election anyway, so there's no point holding that against him, if you believe it.


*OK, I can think of one currently serving parliamentarian that I might otherwise vote for if he were to stand in my electorate.




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  #968630 17-Jan-2014 07:59
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jpoc,

The party was a PR exercise and they knew full well it would get cancelled. It is illegal to give 'FREE' gifts at a event that relates to elections and they would have known of this. They did it to get people to register who they can then send political info to and to stir people up about the awful laws in NZ.


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  #968632 17-Jan-2014 08:11
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KiwiNZ:
SaltyNZ:
KiwiNZ: Dotcom is taking the piss. He mocking NZ and folks are falling for it, eventually he will get bored and move to Fiji or Columbia.


Maybe so. But if in the meantime he and his supporters manage to do some good - even if for the wrong reasons - that's really the best you can hope for from any government. And since the policies he supports align strongly with most of us here in regards to internet, freedom, and so on, there's really no reason not to support him until such time as he includes eating babies for lunch on his list. No politician* thinks any further ahead than the next election anyway, so there's no point holding that against him, if you believe it.


*OK, I can think of one currently serving parliamentarian that I might otherwise vote for if he were to stand in my electorate.




There is a whole world away from the keyboard and modem and things that actually matter.


Indeed there is; and the right to not be spied on by your own government is one of them. Something he has a strong opinion about for some vague reason. I'm not interested in his promise of free internet for everyone; clearly that's not going to happen, although my personal opinion on the UFB project is that is bass ackward and the fibre should be going out to the people who are currently going to be 'served' by RBI, rather than into the middle of cities and suburbs where you can already get DSL2+, VDSL, multiple wireless solutions, and also yes possibly fibre.

But as someone with direct experience with having an assault squad sent after him for the alleged crime of maybe making it slightly easier for someone else to copy a DVD, I think he does have something to bring to the table that neither Labour nor National will. They're both gung-ho to double- and triple-down on the surveillance state.

Also it would be exquisitely entertaining to see John Key held hostage to the man he authorised unlawful spying against and tried very hard to have thrown out of the country for allegedly violating laws that even his own members do.




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  #968634 17-Jan-2014 08:18
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Has the party announced any policies yet? I'm yet to find anything definite apart from vague references.


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