Lyderies:
Yeah, as far as i see it there is know one else to vote for, so id go for the lesser of the evils ...

MikeSkyrme:

SaltyNZ:

Byrned: So its a vote for Dotcom even though I don't know his policies and his only real policy seems to be "stick it to JK"

Strong option there...

NZ First got, what, 8 seats? And they have no policies at all!

Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

NonprayingMantis:

KiwiNZ:

Lyderies:

SaltyNZ:

Lyderies: or is he advertising for said party?

I don't need any advertising: I'll vote for him.

Ill vote for him to even though he reminds me of a german santa, with a half evil agenda

You would vote for him?

what are his .....

Fiscal policies?
Foreign policies ?
Defence policies
Economic and regional development policies ?
Social and Health policies?
Education policies ?
Environment policies ?

None of that stuff really matters under MMP. He can be a single issue party only interested in one specific area.

KiwiNZ:

MikeSkyrme:

SaltyNZ:

Byrned: So its a vote for Dotcom even though I don't know his policies and his only real policy seems to be "stick it to JK"

Strong option there...

NZ First got, what, 8 seats? And they have no policies at all!

Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

So because a person in on a pension they know nothing.... lovely

MikeSkyrme:
Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

jeffnz:

MikeSkyrme:
Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

I find that offensive to say the least. People vote for what they think best suits them and they 'may' include what is beneficial to them, probably the same as you do or do you vote for what is good for others!.

Winston has targeted the older citizens as they will get him in, in return he has done some good things for them, is this wrong or are they?.

If you don't like the party don't vote for it but don't trash those that vote a particular way because they may be right.

MikeSkyrme:

KiwiNZ:

MikeSkyrme:

SaltyNZ:

Byrned: So its a vote for Dotcom even though I don't know his policies and his only real policy seems to be "stick it to JK"

Strong option there...

NZ First got, what, 8 seats? And they have no policies at all!

Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

So because a person in on a pension they know nothing.... lovely

Wow, for a minute there I thought you were my wife, as she is the only one I know (or knew up to this point) who can find a message within my original messages that was not intended to be relayed.

I apologise for inadvertently stating that pensioners know nothing. I used it as an example and was clearly wrong.

MikeSkyrme:

jeffnz:

MikeSkyrme:
Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

I find that offensive to say the least. People vote for what they think best suits them and they 'may' include what is beneficial to them, probably the same as you do or do you vote for what is good for others!.

Winston has targeted the older citizens as they will get him in, in return he has done some good things for them, is this wrong or are they?.

If you don't like the party don't vote for it but don't trash those that vote a particular way because they may be right.

Offensive? Really? Which part of it offended you and why?

If it was for inadvertently saying that pensioners know nothing, then I have already posted an aopolgy in response to the concerns KiwiNZ raised.

If, however, it was for saying that pensioners vote for Winston, have you not reinforced that view within your response?

MikeSkyrme:

Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

jpoc:

MikeSkyrme:

Not much in the way of policy, but a legion of pensioners who no nothing apart from 'vote for Winston and his party'.....

Much like Dotcom, only replace;

'Pensioners' with 'those that just want to stick it to the man'

and

'Vote for Winston and his party' with 'vote for Dotcoms party'.

You forget that those pensioners do know very well who got them free public transport and an indexing of super payments to a fixed percentage of average earnings.

Those two things are very important to that group. Far more important than asset sales, the TPP or GCSB. Winston knows his stuff and so does his support base.

turnin:
I would think a pensioner/s would think the future of the country is potentially more important than their own situation, especially if they have kids/grand kids, mind you, their care might increase if they were more informed of the latter two topics 

Zeon: Kim Doctcom is a master manipulator and half of the public and the whole media seem to have fallen for it.

Linuxluver:

Zeon: Kim Doctcom is a master manipulator and half of the public and the whole media seem to have fallen for it.

Separate the issues from your obvious dislike for the man. 

On the issues...he is spot-on. 

turnin:

NonprayingMantis:

KiwiNZ:

Lyderies:

SaltyNZ:

Lyderies: or is he advertising for said party?

I don't need any advertising: I'll vote for him.

Ill vote for him to even though he reminds me of a german santa, with a half evil agenda

You would vote for him?

what are his .....

Fiscal policies?
Foreign policies ?
Defence policies
Economic and regional development policies ?
Social and Health policies?
Education policies ?
Environment policies ?

None of that stuff really matters under MMP. He can be a single issue party only interested in one specific area.

True, but none of that stuff matters anyway when the TPP comes into force. But for some reason there is nothing in the main stream media about it, I guess they have just run out of room ?

we were discussing this forum topic at lunch and I was told by a colleague that I should stop feeling so 'entitled' to privacy and that it was my sense of entitlement that was the issue, he asked me how I would feel if a terrorist took out a member of my family. I told him it would be worse if I couldn't talk to my family in private. anyway it turns out he was quite serious. This is getting pretty bad , people really are buying this rubbish despite it being found that it's having little if no impact at all on terrorism.

I think people really do believe that the GCSB is Norton Antivirus and that there are terrorists everywhere and that by monitoring us we will solve all the issues, this is fear mongering and frankly as a population we deserve better. So if Kim dot com love or hate the guy can get people talking about privacy , the TPP ( which will probably be the end of our software patent stance for that matter ) and the important fundamental issues as much as main stream media can get people talking about Miley &&^%$ Cyrus and her sledge hammer then surely that's a good thing.  

I also see the US has just said no to net neutrality !, wow !  but hey the media don't really want you to know more about that either. crazy.

right, finish work, go home, watch some murders on TV, wonder where we are going wrong