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  # 996395 28-Feb-2014 13:58
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resurrect:
Klipspringer:

Lets try and keep this civilized please.


then start caring about other people yeah.


You right. Apologies. These soldiers should not go out in the cold.

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  # 996397 28-Feb-2014 13:59
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Klipspringer:
resurrect:
Klipspringer:

Lets try and keep this civilized please.


then start caring about other people yeah.


You right. Apologies. These soldiers should not go out in the cold.


Not just the cold? How about outside, you never know they could trip up and hurt themselves




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  # 996402 28-Feb-2014 14:08
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put your hand up if you remember how the USA attacked Iraq around 10 years ago..... thats right, cruise missiles and then tank rush. infantry are barely even needed on the battlefield anymore. mainly for clearing out buildings etc.

so the whole aspect of war has changed from what people here are trying to portray.

(have any of you tried to put up a tent in even -10c temperatures?)

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  # 996409 28-Feb-2014 14:14
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jarledb: You realise that that school children are out playing in -25 degrees right? While the solidiers from the UK apparently lack the strength to be out in less than -20 degrees weather?


you realise those kids are out there for 20-30 mins then go inside and warm up right?

and the soldiers have to spend a few days in that.

but hey if you'd like to argue how soldiers get it easier than those kids go right ahead.

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  # 996413 28-Feb-2014 14:19
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resurrect: put your hand up if you remember how the USA attacked Iraq around 10 years ago..... thats right, cruise missiles and then tank rush. infantry are barely even needed on the battlefield anymore. mainly for clearing out buildings etc.

so the whole aspect of war has changed from what people here are trying to portray.

(have any of you tried to put up a tent in even -10c temperatures?)


No. And I would hate to try...

But if I was going to be deployed into an area with those sort of temperatures I really hope to receive some good training before doing so. Practical training that is, not just the theory.

Its a bit like deep sea diving or sending people to space. Where should they be sent for training? The aquarium and the air force museum?



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  # 996417 28-Feb-2014 14:26
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Klipspringer:

No. And I would hate to try...

But if I was going to be deployed into an area with those sort of temperatures I really hope to receive some good training before doing so. Practical training that is, not just the theory.

Its a bit like deep sea diving or sending people to space. Where should they be sent for training? The aquarium and the air force museum?


I encourage you to go find a blast freezer and try just putting up a tent after you've gone for a run, while wearing equipment similar to that of what military personnel would. and even all the training in the world cant stop hypothermia.

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  # 996420 28-Feb-2014 14:28
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resurrect:
Klipspringer:

No. And I would hate to try...

But if I was going to be deployed into an area with those sort of temperatures I really hope to receive some good training before doing so. Practical training that is, not just the theory.

Its a bit like deep sea diving or sending people to space. Where should they be sent for training? The aquarium and the air force museum?


I encourage you to go find a blast freezer and try just putting up a tent after you've gone for a run, while wearing equipment similar to that of what military personnel would. and even all the training in the world cant stop hypothermia.


You know climbers and mountaineers do this all the time? So do Mongolians, Alaskans and even people in Antarctica?




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  # 996422 28-Feb-2014 14:33
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Klipspringer:
resurrect:
Klipspringer: 
LOL

You forgetting something. There are humans on both sides of the firing line.

The other territory you referring to has humans too. And war is not always about gaining territory. These days it can be anything, an uprising against the government can be classed as a war. Many nations are at war with themselves.

We dont need an enemy outside our borders to have a war. The military is trained and normally prepared for all of these kinds of threats.


A war is different from training though. also stop talking like an arrogant noob


Lets try and keep this civilized please.


Agreed

@resurrect lets play nice




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  # 996423 28-Feb-2014 14:35
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Klipspringer:
resurrect: put your hand up if you remember how the USA attacked Iraq around 10 years ago..... thats right, cruise missiles and then tank rush. infantry are barely even needed on the battlefield anymore. mainly for clearing out buildings etc.

so the whole aspect of war has changed from what people here are trying to portray.

(have any of you tried to put up a tent in even -10c temperatures?)


No. And I would hate to try...

But if I was going to be deployed into an area with those sort of temperatures I really hope to receive some good training before doing so. Practical training that is, not just the theory.

Its a bit like deep sea diving or sending people to space. Where should they be sent for training? The aquarium and the air force museum?




I agree, if it is for pre-deployment training as I have said earlier it makes sense, but for normal training no the risk is too high.




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Using empathy takes no energy and can gain so much. Try it.

 

 


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  # 996434 28-Feb-2014 14:40
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I see you points guys, who support that hilarious, IMHO, ban.

You grow-up on tropical islands of NZ. See freezing temperatures on TV, or some of few travel to Ruapehu. Good. This is you grounds, that -10 is too cold, -20 hard to do training, dangerous.

what if it's too HOT? like few years back in UK.

Same for UK, almost as warm as NZ, but it's snowing there sometimes.

Hey, what about all these Scandinavians, Russians. Pretty funny for us to read this.

I grow-up at place where -25-30 we go to school and have outside activities during winter. Skiing, totally fine, I survived, no one died during 1-2hr school ski trips...

Some parts of the world get average winter temperature of -30 with picks at -50-60, and people walk to work, school, they alive.






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  # 996509 28-Feb-2014 16:38
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pussies lol toughen up get hard grow a pair



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  # 996524 28-Feb-2014 17:00
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Athlonite: pussies lol toughen up get hard grow a pair


The British Army has proven time and time again that they are very tough. Your comment is inappropriate.




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  # 997405 2-Mar-2014 06:49
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KiwiNZ:
Athlonite: pussies lol toughen up get hard grow a pair


The British Army has proven time and time again that they are very tough. Your comment is inappropriate.


and my comment was not meant to be derogatory to those actually doing the hard graft but the drongos who're making these stupid rules 

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  # 997471 2-Mar-2014 10:06
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Lyderies:
Klipspringer: You right. Apologies. These soldiers should not go out in the cold.

Not just the cold? How about outside, you never know they could trip up and hurt themselves


They might cut themselves on the nasty kitchen cutlery ... better make sure they only have kiddy plastic sets to eat with, or just go the whole way and give them little plastic bowls of pre-mashed baby food to be eaten with a spoon that too big to be accidentally swallowed. ;-)

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